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    Discussion in 'Archives' started by nomnomnom, Oct 23, 2012.

    1. nate8282

      nate8282 Member Legendary

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      Just wanted say that if it weren't for this routine i probably wouldn't even play wow, thanks man.
       
    2. Stoyo

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      Well, same here. At least I wouldn't play my warrior. I hate fury and only the dmg I do with this routine is what makes me stick to it.
      I have always played Arms. Even in raids. But right now I must be doing something wrong as I am rage starving all the time after 5.2
      Please, nom, give us Arms support :)
       
    3. vibrator

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      Shattering Throw is a raid dps and personal dps gain. Use it before you blow all your cd's it leaves a Debuff just like CS only it lasts for 20 seconds so that's all your cd's used fully with the armor debuff instead of only 6 seconds worth inside of a CS best used @ the begionng and end of fights unless you have another warrior then you should use a Rotation for ST if there are 2 or more warriors i.e. we have a prot war MT who uses his on the pull when his runs out I use mine or I save mine for the lust if we have a burn phase like the puddles in heroic jin or when majority of the raid gets evolved on Pirmoridus the 1st time and we lust. Sometimes Raid DPS is more important than personal and sometimes the gain is greater than the loss like the 1.5 sec cast time and gcd especially when Furry wars aren't trying to use every gcd here is a great how to play warrior guide this is pre 5.2 but little has changed except for WS being better now since they are free with procs now landsoul_vodka - <vodka> Landsoul DPS Warrior - World of Warcraft Mists of Pandaria Working on ReforgeTool for the spreadsheet
       
    4. nomnomnom

      nomnomnom Well-Known Member

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      Pushed the update I made last evening (On dev-pub developers SVN, release will follow after some reports that it works good :)). Unfortunately It's partially untested ... Let me know ASAP if something doesn't work :).

      Internal revision 208.

      * Global: Created OnKeyActions() composite.
      * Prot: Added G.OnKeyActions().
      * Prot: Updated CastOnGround automatic mode for Demo Banner to not trigger when hotkey placement is enabled.
      * Fury: Added G.OnKeyActions().
      * Fury: Updated CastOnGround automatic mode for Demo Banner to not trigger when hotkey placement is enabled.

      * Updated general settings file for banner placement.
      * Updated both Prot & Fury GUI for new on-key actions for Heroic Leap & Demo Banner.

      This release brings a new feature to you all!
      On-Key-Press actions for Heroic Leap & Demoralizing banner. Casts on mouse location once you press the key (Keys configurable via GUI)!
       
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    5. RownX

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      mhm, in my opinion im making less dmg with the last 2 updates then before...
       
    6. nomnomnom

      nomnomnom Well-Known Member

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      I have seen AND heard different reports, but thanks for reporting. I'll keep an eye out :). Make sure you have settings matching your spec ... EG rotational ImpVic.

      Edit: Provide me more info on your spec and what kind of fights you feel dps lack, also I really need to know EVERY bit of info you have ... Like how does it feel, what is your feeling which has changed, is it slower, does it stutter more, what botbase with what settings?>
       
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    7. RownX

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      Botbase is tyrael, flock, plugin pulse but also plugins disabled. Spec is fury with dragon roar and avatar. I'm raiding with it, so I don't have to focus that much => mostly singletarget fights
      First thing I noticed is that it uses berserker as often as possible, but in my opinion it should be waited for a situation where you got no crit, so no enrage is triggered -> trigger with berserk
      Can't remember now, because most of the time I do dragon roar myself, but it seems like even though it's activated, yourbuddy does not use it

      In general it feels like the routine is running smoother than before, but it's less dps

      Edit: If I remember correctly, routine did this before your updates
       
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    8. DrSalvation

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      This is still using Disrupting Shout and Pummel at the same time causing them both to go on cooldown instead of using one and then using the other.
       
    9. RownX

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      can't confirm that, worked for me as intended
       
    10. Dominowood

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      Да тоже заметил такое что последние две версии наносят меньше урона чем раньше.
       
    11. johnnyb

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      I don't know if its just me on my slowish computer (i5) or something more serious, V2 of your routine seems a lot more 'jerky' with more pauses between casts to me and so far does not come close to the dps the last version (rev 101 svn 158 I think) did before the core change. That said its head and shoulders ahead of its competition!!

      My spec ilvl 505, fury, TG, Bloodbath & Dragon Roar, Synapse Springs.

      I wish I could help by telling you what its casting differently or how to improve the rotation but i'm really new to all this all I know is how it 'looks' and 'feels' sorry again for not being more helpful, keep up the good work guys!!
       
    12. tombot

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      We all need to be very careful in exactly what we report, dps loss / dps gain. I know for myself, I check it against past versions to confirm my results against new versions. The reason why I want to be careful is to not add any more strain to the devs of this routine. With that said, it is important to report dps loss, just not blindly. I am not suggesting some of you are. It's easy to understand that "it feels like less dps" to mean, you are guessing and not sure.

      I can report and I have to be very careful giving out exact numbers as not to pinpoint myself to a certain company, but I am gear level 52x, we have between 3 - 4 heroic ToT down and as a result of the passionate and hard work from Nom, I do have many dps records in 10 and or 25 man ToT encounters. Nom of course can confirm this as I've shared exact details with him.

      This routine is performing exceptionally well.

      Keep the reports coming in but again, be careful to double check your numbers or at least have a very clear understanding of what you are seeing before you report it. That's my advice.

      One other thing, I am seeing some of you report that you are using different abilities than what you should be using. To get the most dps out of your Warrior, you should only be using Dragon Roar / Blood Bath in a PVE setting. If you are not, you are simply not doing the most dps your Warrior is capable of doing. Also, to further max your dps, you need to have Blacksmithing, Engineering or JC'ing. BS and Eng are the best to have. This is not ME saying that, it's the entire Warrior community. If Mining is important to you, then DPS is going to take a backseat like it or not. As far as gemming goes, there is a new trend and that's running nothing but crit gems and ignoring ALL socket bonuses. If you have a red socket and can place yellow and the socket bonus gives you crit, then that's a no-brainer.

      This routine will do a lot of you but you still have to understand how to mold your Warrior to output the most dps you can. You also have to understand when and where to use your CD's. This routine will do a lot for you and I know that I can speak on everyone's behalf and tell Nom we are very grateful but at the same time, the routine will not or ever will do "everything" for you.

      I also want to encourage anyone using this routine, new people and old users alike, consider supporting Nom with a donation. It will go a long way in keeping the momentum going. You have to admit, this is a pretty damn good tool we have and he has been 100% dedicated to making it the best possible routine out there.
       
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    13. RownX

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      well, i got BM and JC

      but if you know the warrior so well, shouldn't one be using berserker rage as filler, on situations where you you got no enrage?
      aswell, for me it doesn't always use dragon roar, even if checked

      what is much better now: it better times the usage of abilities in combination with colossus smash

      one question though is always bothering me, to use recklessnes glyph or not?

      Edit: just did two 10 minute fights in stormwind, using same spec and glyphs as before, with bloodbath I got 7k dps less than with avatar...
       
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    14. tombot

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    15. nomnomnom

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      Enjoy! :).

      Dragon Roar DOES get used, but make sure you have the Tier 4 setting set appropriate. Also, dragon roar requires CS to NOT be on target, and Bloodbath to be up. This is the only right way to maximize your roar DPS.

      PHP:
                      YBSpell.Cast("Dragon Roar"ret => G.DRTalent && G.BloodbathAura && !G.ColossusSmashAura && (
                          (
      SF.Instance.Tier4Abilities == YBEnum.AbilityTrigger.OnBossDummy && YBUnit.IsTargetBoss) ||
                          (
      SF.Instance.Tier4Abilities == YBEnum.AbilityTrigger.OnBlTw && (G.BloodLustAura || G.TimeWarpAura)) ||
                          (
      SF.Instance.Tier4Abilities == YBEnum.AbilityTrigger.Always)
                          )),
      Edit; Now I get what you mean. Ofcourse you don't have Bloodbath when Avatar specced ... Will be fixed in next release ;). Together with several other fixes for Avatar specced playstyle.

      Try it with the current dev-pub version. It should work ...

      Pauses between casts is not related to this routine, as it definitely does not do this. Make sure you use Tyrael with AT LEAST 30 tps and lockselector enabled. Otherwise, it'll cast slowly indeed. And if this isnt the cause, provide a full log.

      Berserker Rage is only popped with appropriate settings, and when you lack the Enrage aura.
       
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    16. Dominowood

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      Nom когда ждать новый реализ?
       
    17. glidarkatten

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      Hey warrior friends!

      Im having a question about weapons. I got 1h [Shellsplitter Greataxe] & [Worldbreaker's Stormscythe] in lfr version 502. and 2h [Shin'ka, Execution of Dominion] & [Shin'ka, Execution of Dominion] in normal 496. What should I used to max out the dps do u think?
       
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    18. nomnomnom

      nomnomnom Well-Known Member

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      Alright everyone; I'm looking to rename this routine to something more appropriate ... I was drunk when I started it. So hereby a contest! The one who comes with the best name will be famed on my thank you list ;)!

      As i want to keep the topic clean, please ONLY pm it to me! I will only respond to the winner :).

      I will reply to all posts in a few minutes by editing this one.

      Edit:
      New version on public developers SVN:


      Internal revision 209.

      * New interrupt code for Prot & Fury.
      * Fury: Updated rotations to properly support Avatar.


      SimCraft it :).

      Now released on developer svn.
       
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    19. glidarkatten

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      It says arms its the best for me! lol So how is the arms routine goes? ;)
       
    20. dekadentz

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      can anyone tell me how the dps looks like with this great cc ?
      cuz today i have to raid hm's after a while
       

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