I was trying to do 1 -5 with Cava profiles and mesh issues all over the place, so its not kicks or cava's profile fault its honorbuddy mesh system that is messed up atm.
I agree with you that kick's profiles are not any better or worse than Cava's or Brodieman's. Which says something about the quality of the last 2: written by volunteers, they offer the same quality as the official profiles. They certainly deserve our respect.And as for Kick, i am really sorry for him: becoming a member of the the team apparently did not bring any substantial amelioration to his profiles. I hope he is is being otherwise compensated in the form of a good salary.
The issues are mostly mesh related. After the 5.4 patch, a fix was implemented into HB that shifted everything over just ever so slightly that way....or was it that way...either way! The issue is that this fix was MEANT to help with issues of wall hugging and falling off of cliffs. It worked in several areas of Pandaria, however in a lot of the other areas, some...tweaks are necessary. If one were to go through and report at least 1 or 2 of the stuck issues, it would be very helpful indeed. There's a forum dedicated to Nav issues alone. The profiles are near sound, its the mesh that isn't always up to par. And that's not to knock the HB mesh guys, but a huge change like that of 5.4's update is going to take tweaking to fix, just like everything else that was affected and needed to be changed by profile writers.
Profiles is what everybody can see, also what everybody can, more or less, read. They are one of the few things a user can chose to do, all other things are beyond his control. So it is quite natural that people tend to blame profiles for every mishap or issue. There are many things that I do not understand yet, as far as HB is concerned, but I really would not blame the mesh for all the problems users, including me, are confronted with. They also have to do with the other parts: questing, combat, and whatever else i do not know or understand. Logs are being uploaded all the time, so I suppose that the devs have a pretty good picture of the shortcomings of the program. At least, I hope so. The question is, do they get the means and the manpower to do their job properly?
No...they fixed something that's been bugging people for a long time, and now the aftermath needs to be dealt with. It's not broken, like everything else it needs maintenance at regular intervals, or it ends up broken.
Brodie, I think you are just too nice. The only thing that will save HB in the long run is healthy competition. Right now, the mods are re(acting) like all of HB is the work of a bunch of volunteers, and that we should be grateful for every(help)thing we get. I read in Kick's profiles thread a remark of a mod that the problems are not with the Kick's profiles, but with some other parts of HB, and that everything should be fine with the next release. I hope (s)he is right, but even in the short time i have been using HB, I see no reason to believe any new promise made.
I always assumed a part of being a developer is that when you change something... you beta test if it works togheter with the rest of code? I guess Bosslands devs forgot a step and went straight to Release?
I have been running Kickz Profile all day, 58-70Fly Alliance. I went from 60-68 today with 0, yes 0 issues. No stucks, no quest issues. What I found that helped A LOT is turning off anti-virus/firewall ( I use Eset), and I turned off most plugins. With antivirus running and plugins I would always get stuck or get the dreaded "Loading Tiles" message. I don't use Singular either, I use a routine that has its own facing/movement to target script.
Do you know how much virtual square footage there is in WoW? Do you understand how long it would take to manually map out every hill and doodad? And then to test every inch to make sure it's all done properly? Yes, there's work to be done. On both ends. Not just the devs, but we the users need to bitch less and report more. Every bug that you run into that you don't report is one bug you didn't help fix. Wrt kicks profiles, I was pleasantly surprised to go full afk the other night at 77 and wake up to find I had hit 80 and logged out, just as I had set the plugin to do. I have stucks set pretty low, too, so it's impressive that it didn't need to log out earlier.
