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    Discussion in 'Requests & Discussion' started by deadshade, Oct 29, 2013.

    1. deadshade

      deadshade New Member

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      So as you can tell from the title my spec is moonkin.....and here's my problem!

      My gear is quite good not the best but better than average, i have ilvl530. but when i use DB i have tried using the 3 different moonkin CR available but they seem to sux at times...

      On the Boss training dummy using lazyraider the most they will do it 100kdps which is ok but then i do it manually and im nearly hitting 145kdps which isnt bad for single target

      I have tryed both DB for HC and LFR,and also Lazyraider and tyrael with the 3 available CR,

      in 5 man HC's they peak around 60kdps and in LFR around 85kdps and im dead last on damage :( and look a bit of a plonker at times lol.

      Could this be a set up problem or CR problem? i could say it maybe a gear spec problem but like i said i can do near 145k and i have used the advised specs for the CR's

      The other problems i see with the CR's are they are very slow, what i mean by this is they will all do firstly a big burst spamming spell after spell but they slow down to a snail pace and not use spells available it, they will wait untill the globle CD then cast next spell when it could cast spells that do not share the same GC. would one of you kind people be able to have a look into this?

      Maybe even write a new CR for moonkins :D that just spams spells untill mob is dead and can cast spells while waiting for spells on globel CD.
      While im here asking for help is there anything available maybe a plugin that is out there or could be made to lets say load in CR's and simply pick from a drop down bar? as i have at times to change between all 3 spec's depending on what im doing.

      Any help muchly appreciated
      Deadshade
       
    2. handnavi

      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Did you try my routine? Pewpewpew? :)
       
    3. deadshade

      deadshade New Member

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      i have tryed...

      Pasterke's
      PewPewPew
      PureRotation
      Singular (Doesnt seem to work at all)
       
    4. deadshade

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      Just ran PewPewPew again......10.21m @70.9kdps

      Doing myself 10.42m @131kdps

      imo its like the cr isnt casting the correct spells at the right time...when shooting stars procs it will cast wrath or starfire 2 more times depending on what way im currently going and alot of the times shooting stars procs again losing one of its procs as its not used the first one yet.

      Any idea's?
       
    5. Insanityy

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      i think you have a problem then, try a fresh install of HB and all routines/plugin (delete everything and re-download), then try and if its still not working post a log (try handnavis profile its trusted :))
       
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      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      What i can see is.... it has got slow reaction times and pauses between casts.
      Please try the following:
      1.) Use raidbot instead of lazyraider
      2.) Open the general config and set the tps higher (try something between 30 and 100).
      3.) Activate framelock @ general config
       
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      ok will give that a whirl in a mo...ill upload another log once tested
       
    9. handnavi

      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Okay, thanks. :)
      Will look at it tomorrow, heading to bed now.
       
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      try setting TPS in HB to 30 with framelock on using raidbot using HB BETA with handnavis profile then let us know :)
       
    12. deadshade

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      ill give this a shot when the wow 32bit is working again and let you know :)
       
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      Also remember enabling V-Sync in your Video Settings @ WoW if you haven't.
       
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      What does this do? Lol
       
    15. deadshade

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      ok so after the HB update and doing nothing else its upto 110kdps using Raidbot and PewPewPew CR, which is a big improvement on what it was. But when i enable framelock and set tps to 30 with and without vsync enabled my game is near impossible to play :S
       
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      hey :)
      i did also some testing recently and from what i can say PR uses Racial and Gloves right at the start with Incarnation, PPP waits for Celestial Alignment :) I'm totally unsure about it but both CR seem to have an issue with Incarnation: Chosen of the Elune, because it activates, waiting a sec for full animation and then continue. PPP uses constantly Force of Nature if there is 1 stack, but it should use all available stacks if you have haste buff from eclipse or meta gem up.

      Simulated Estimate: ~185K
      _______________1_TARGET BOSS DUMMY________________
      2013-10-31 100,19M 167,5K PewPewPew (FoN)(Tyrael 20TPS)
      2013-10-31 100,48M 175,4K PureRotation (Inc+HoW)(Raidbot 20TPS)
      2013-11-01 100,36M 172,1K PewPewPew (Inc+HoW)(Raidbot 20TPS)
      2013-11-01 102,52M 176,4K PewPewPew (Inc+HoW)(Tyrael 20TPS)
      2013-11-01 101,85M 173,4K PureRotation (Inc+HoW)(Tyrael 20TPS)


      Simulated Estimate: ~269K
      _____________4_TARGET 2 BOSS 2 TARGET DUMMY______________
      2013-10-31 101,41M 253,5K PewPewPew (Inc+HoW)(Raidbot 20TPS)
      2013-10-31 101,14M 258,0K PewPewPew (Inc+HoW)(Tyrael 20TPS)
      2013-11-01 101,18M 242,5K PureRotation (Inc+HoW)(Tyrael 20TPS)
      2013-11-01 101,06M 250,4K PureRotation (Inc+HoW)(Raidbot 20TPS)

      If only PPP had a Cooldown On/Off/Boss-Only :-D OVER THE MOON!
       
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      So i wonder if the devs of the CR's can have a look into this?
       
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      Navi doesn't have "Cooldown On/Off/Boss-Only" ? :O such a bad boy
       

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