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  • [PAID] [Mage] Portal - An Advanced Honorbuddy Mage Routine [PvE/PvP]

    Discussion in 'Mage' started by Millz, Aug 26, 2013.

    1. Ubertixo

      Ubertixo Member

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      Hehe :) That can be true, but for some reason I can't seem to let my Mage collect dust... I just want to see the enemy burn :D hehe
       
    2. korruptionz

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      What world do you live in lol? No lock beats a mage (maybe on trash lol). The only locks that out dps/damage me are the ones that pad meters.

      edit; youll main your mage when you use millz routine. Its amazing.
       
    3. Millz

      Millz Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      When questing or just always? If always - change the pet to assist.

      There's a damn quest behaviour (and I'm not sure which is it) that sets the pet to passive for no good reason.

      Yeah this, equal gear a mage will out dps a warlock, but you're generally comparing characters of a similar ilvl, one using a combat routine, and one playing by hand ;)
       
    4. giovino

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      Milz i have a question, maybe it is already been asked but what's better for this rotation ? Going full haste or soft haste cap + full mastery?
       
    5. Millz

      Millz Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      You'd think I'd pay more attention to stat priorities given what I do, but I just do whatever askmrrobot.com tells me to do :)
       
    6. snow686

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      Haste > mastery > crit> hit cap
       
    7. samoday

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      Totally not true .. I consistently beat a lock that is my ilvl with Portal Premium. On the other hand, Warlock AoE has no challengers... it is insane.
       
    8. dilbog

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      OK stats are tricky there is a lot to be said for your play style and ilvl all to be taken into account
      lets start with ilvl
      below 550 FROST ONLY: you want a mastery build, everything you can into mastery regardless of haste caps because you get lots of icicle damage.
      550-567ish Frost or Arcane depending on what you play best.
      Your looking at mixed, mastery or hast build it depends on weather you can hit some caps.
      MIXED BUILD: first one is haste to 37.52% thats +2 on your living bomb but if you can reach 50% haste with out reforging out of to much mastery then do so this would be a good all round build untill higher caps can be attained.
      FULL HASTE: like it says on the tin everything goes into haste now you do not want to breaking socket bonus unless it is a small one or a stat u dont want but you will always want int bonus.
      MASTERY BUILD: you would still want 37.52% haste and dump everything into mastery now if you have lots of raw haste you can still go for the 50% haste cap.
      *NOTE* This is for frost spec BUT mixed build and mastery build are both very good for arcane only diff is for mixed build I would not go for 50% haste cap.
      Also if you play frost some crit can be nice I like to run about 28% crit but for Arcane dont worry about crit at all.
      Above 567+ All 3 spec's are close with fire pulling out ahead by a bit with lots of luck.
      Fire spec: Bottom line 40%+ crit nothing else matters reforge everything into crit. I play fire with 50%+ crit do not like it below that but thats just my play style.

      Now lets look at the builds and see what they are of use for. This is regarding frost spec.
      1: FULL HASTE. this is a very fast paced and most tricky to handle but in return offers the best multi target performance.
      2: MASTERY BUILD. Best for single target fights full stop tons of icicle damage on the move. A good build for THOK.
      3: MIXED BUILD. best of both worlds and easiest spec to play. you get a minimum of +2 on your bomb with better icicle damage on the move.

      Stat weights
      Ok so we are all botters and we know it :) but that doesnt mean we should not sim out toons, Learn to use simcraft and love it because askmrrobot stats are bad for mages and will only get in a general direction.
      Frost is the only stats I can give for askmrrobot.
      Mastery build: mastery 3.6, haste 3.38 and crit 1.0
      Haste build: Haste 3.6, mastery 3.45 and crit to 1.0
      Mixed build: Haste to cap 3.8, mastery 3.45, haste after cap 3.38 and crit to 1.0

      Bombs.
      I read some incorrect posts about bombs so i'll clear it up.
      LIVING BOMB. best used for 1-2 targets
      NETHER TEMPEST: 3-5 spread targets OR 2+ stacked targets
      FROST BOMB: 5+ spread or 3+ stacked targets. this bomb often get overlooked because it can be hard to use but when skilled enough it destroys on fights like Galakras.

      Ok so your prob wondering why I put more info for frost and I have 2 reasons
      1: frost is the easiest spec to play if you need to take manual control.
      2: Millz routine handles frost better that the other 2 specs. WHY? because with arcane it seems to strugle with dealing with keeping mana above 85% esp if you are on the move it cannot account for that and with fire spec there seems to be issue with ignite having to be pre setup. fire is on the fly and although combustion is a small part of our overall damage if you get a poor start your screwed.these are just the limitations of using a bot and not the routines fault.
       
    9. Millz

      Millz Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      That's a really nice write up :)
       
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      Thanks a lot dilbog for your reply! Really appriciated it!
       
    11. Millz

      Millz Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      [14/Jan/2014]
      - Logging now prints the targets actual HP value (rounded) rather than just the percentage for better debugging purposes.
       
    12. maybis

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      Does portal automatically cast Evocation if you have the Invocation talent selected in bot and in game? Or do have to do it myself? It doesnt cast Evocation to keep the dmg buff up like it does rune of power.
       
    13. dilbog

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      No issues with it here.
       
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      is there another setting somewhere that i need to check? i have it selected in the talent options.. portal is up to date and everything

      do i need to do something special with "use evocation low mana% / low hp%" under class abilities tab?

      Edit: nvm only works in raids was testing on dummies and it wasnt working.
       
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      As a ilevel 560 Frost mage just starting heroic progression how well does this fair up against the human effect? Meaning Keeping buffs such as Invoker's Energy, Using CD with each other or correct timings for best Damage, etc,

      I recently purchased the Demonic and I've fallen in love with it. I do not doubt your coding skill millz but i dont see that many PvE Feedback lol Just wondering anyone else enjoying using portal?
       
    16. Mitrexe

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      Good on keeping up buffs etc, bad if you already manually do stuff like clip your bombs when you have trinket procs up. Outside of that, the routine is pretty great but you need to know when to take over for certain parts of some encounters (e.g. belt on Siegecrafter). Once dot snapshotting is added, this routine will be godlike.
       
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      As a now ilvl 565 Frost mage .. I can tell you that it fairs a lot better than the human aspect. I have ranked within top 50 reported frost mages on 6 bosses on Worldoflogs.com (and believe me, there are a ton of them on there) All without lifting a finger except the occasional blink needed because of my poor choice of where to stand. Buffs and CD's are spot on. They never fail.
       
    18. samoday

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      No issues with that myself personally. Evo always casts for me. You probably have a setting set wrong. Go over them again. It should be casting at 15% mana or whenever the buff falls off.

      I should have read a little further before replying. Nothing special needs to be done. You should only have the top one checked, not both. Even on the target dummy it should be casting. If it's not, upload a log for Millz to look at when he wakes up. I'm sure he can find the error or tell you that you are doing something wrong.
       
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      Very interesting could you share some of your settings with me? (us). Maybe a Screen shot of them or details?
       
    20. samoday

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      General Tab
      Mobility - Only Enable Facing
      Resting - Nothing
      Racials - Nothing
      Herbalism - Nothing (Use this if you are an herbalist and only on Boss or Player)
      Trinkets - Nothing
      Engineering - Nothing (Use on boss or player if you are an Engineer)
      Healthstones - Use at 30%

      Class Abilities Tab
      Armor - None (Apply Frost Armor yourself)
      Cone of Cold - Nothing
      Deep Freeze - Only have the first box checked
      Spellsteal - Nothing
      Totems - Nothing
      Frost nova - Nothing
      Raid Buff - Nothing
      Ice Block - Use Ice Block on Cauterize
      Slow Fall - Nothing
      Counterspell - Use this at your own discretion
      Evocation - Low mana at 15%
      Mirror Image - On Boss or Player
      Remove Curse - Nothing
      Polymorph - Nothing
      Blink - Nothing
      Mana Gem - Nothing
      Alter Time - Offensive
      Conjure Refreshments - Nothing

      Talents Tab
      The talents you have in game are the only talents you should have active

      Frost Tab
      Check AoE Abilities and put it at 4
      Do not use Pet Freeze
      Frost Orb - Enable on cooldown
      Icy Veins - On Bossor Player +BF/FOF Aura
       

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