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    Discussion in 'Archives' started by tuanha, Aug 27, 2014.

    1. tuanha

      tuanha Well-Known Member

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      Make sure you disable the Store streaming version and make a clean install.

      I'm not sure what the problem is, just trying to find out why. Because I don't have that problem myself, I can't find a fix yet.
       
    2. runittwiice

      runittwiice New Member

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      Any help with this?
       
    3. Lipstick

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      Try playing around with the mana/heal slider. If you're wasting too much, draw it to minus. Currently mine is set to -10.. :p
       
    4. wizfor

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      Is there a way to have it not automatically cast Faerie Fire as bear guardian, so I can save it for interupts?
       
    5. wolfrain62

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      I am having the same issue. The store version is disabled. I have also tried a fresh install.
       
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    6. runittwiice

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      Well, it isn't supposed to be casting any of those spells while noone is below 100% now or is it?
       
    7. Blackmonkee

      Blackmonkee New Member

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      Anyone having ultimate success want to share their settings?

      I noticed a few things and will share some of my own settings from ilvl 637 running Challenge Mode dungeons.

      At first I would go OOM all the time on encounters and sometimes my party would wipe because of the settings.

      Here's some of my notes and recommendations on how to improve this CR and for people using it, how to use it well:

      - Wild Mushroom
      I played around with autodrop checked and unchecked. It just wastes way too much mana (nearly 6000 per cast) so I highly recommend you have this box unchecked and cast wild mushroom manually.
      Most heroic and challenge mode encounters require players to move around quite a bit, so having HB auto-cast means that you'll be wasting 5k mana each time your party members shift positions in a fight.

      - Regrowth and Healing Touch settings
      I tried settings between 70 and 90 with mixed results. The tricky part is setting it in the right spot so you're casting these two heals about a half second to a full second before the person actually needs them.
      For example, when I first started using this CR I set Healing Touch to 70 to try and conserve mana. When HB was waiting for my healing target to get to 70% health, the mobs were already preparing an attack on their target, and the heal wouldn't reach my target until they were well below 70%, causing chaos. Right now I have Healing Touch back at 85 and Regrowth at 70.

      -Lifebloom
      There needs to be an option for out-of-combat lifebloom to cast on the tank instead of on myself. I know it's trying to proc Omen of Clarity but I'd prefer to be able to choose its out of combat lifebloom target so that it doesn't need to re-cast on the tank once we enter combat.

      - Heal Slider
      I haven't messed with the slider yet, but will probably be setting it to a negative number since Druids go OOM very quickly at least in my experience.

      Utility Spells
      - My settings are far from optimal and I'm finding difficulty on challenge mode encounters even at ilvl 637. The biggest annoyance is that certain utility spells such as battle rez and interrupts are hit or miss.
      Sometimes the CR will immediately toss out a dispel/interrupt/battle rez, while other times I have to pause the bot to cast then press Start again to have it resume the routine (or spam the button until it gets through).
      Also, on encounters like Rukhran (Challenge Mode), you don't dps down the adds. You kite them instead and use slows or snares to keep them from touching you. This routine fails in the sense that I'm unable to manually cast reliably while the routine is running. Even using the setting to have it pause a few milliseconds after a manual command will cause some delay issues and essentially make things worse. I'd like to be able to have the routine do its thing until I need to cast -> cast the ability -> and have the routine be able to resume immediately once I'm through.

      Out of Combat
      - Since lifebloom auto-casts out of combat, it interrupts certain features like drinking between fights, moving around, shapeshifting to cat/travel form to run between encounters and other such out of combat actions. I always have to "Stop" honorbuddy between encounters if I want to sit and drink or move somewhere without being interrupted by the CR.

      Overall I think this CR is the best so far for paid routines. If only there were a guide for settings or more people shared their personal settings then it would make for a smooth playing experience for all.
       
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    8. dkopener

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      What about pvp :) feral warking at bg;s but not at skirmish arenas restorian not warking at bg;s so we cant even cheack how he doing :) balance warking but we dont have any profile to load and let us buy solo druid rutin ;p
       
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    9. Nizaden

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      Well I downloaded the routine off your website and I dont have the profile streaming as I never got it through the buddystore. If you know how to provide you with a log or information to fix it please let me know.
       
    10. iamahuntard78

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      Is anyone else having my issue with it knocking you out of cat form constantly??
       
    11. wolfrain62

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      yup a few ppl are.
       
    12. tuanha

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      Hi Blackmonkee, hi everyone.

      Thank for the suggestion that make my Combat Routine a lot better :D

      I've made a few adjustment to heal and I complete Proving Ground Gold mode with 30% mana left.

      The key is to manual cast Wild Mushroom, everything else on auto. You can load my setting in the most recent update:
      TuanHA Druid Restoration Proving Ground Manual Wild Mushroom.xml

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      This is picture at Gold mode 3 second left - notice I still have 34k mana ^.^

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      And this is how roughly the recommended talent. You can chose anything, the CR support all but I found Force of Nature and Germination is highly recommended as they use less mana than other talents.

      PS:I was using PvP Talent Renewal, if I chose [Ysera's Gift] [Cenarion Ward] it could be a lot better but well, we clear Gold Mode anyway xD
       
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    13. tuanha

      tuanha Well-Known Member

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      Consider the CR clear Proving Ground Gold mode with 30% mana left, I think we are more than ready for coming raid on 2nd Dec, I'll work on other Healing CRs now.
       
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      the new proving ground settings are truly amazing! i cant believe i finished this on gold with 90% mana its really awesome.
      Good job tuanha!
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    16. enulless

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      Hey Tuanha, great work with the updates thus far!

      I was just curious would it be possible to implement a dps priority buildup utilizing "Bloodtalons"
      example would be build 5 combo points, -->cast healing touch, then ferocious bite, -->shadow meld, -->prowl, -->rake
      or something to that extent
       
    17. BlexX1

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      Got huge issues with my resto druid in BG - he overheals the shit out of everyone even out of himself - don't know why :/

      btw: is there any option that activate's DPS as a resto? (in pvp)

      sorry for the bad english :D
       
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    18. basti

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      faerie fire rocks them all :D

      hi!

      i think, there is a strange behaviour with this CR. i saw it today for the first time

      [hide][18:59:01.280 D] 01:279 Trying to cast Faerie Fire (770) on Huschender Verderbnisstachel Dist: 3.7631650088123 reason FaerieFireWoD2
      [18:59:01.391 N] 01:391 HP: 100% Rage: 10 Huschender Verderbnisstachel 2.4y 100% HP Feenfeuer (770)
      [18:59:02.412 D] Waiting for MangleWoD2
      [18:59:02.668 D] 02:668 Trying to cast Faerie Fire (770) on Huschender Verderbnisstachel Dist: 1.78825076572713 reason FaerieFireWoD2
      [18:59:02.835 N] 02:835 HP: 100% Rage: 10 Huschender Verderbnisstachel 1.79y 94% HP Feenfeuer (770)
      [18:59:03.787 D] Waiting for MangleWoD2
      [18:59:04.110 D] 04:110 Trying to cast Faerie Fire (770) on Huschender Verderbnisstachel Dist: 1.78825076572713 reason FaerieFireWoD2
      [18:59:04.242 N] 04:242 HP: 100% Rage: 18 Huschender Verderbnisstachel 1.79y 87% HP Feenfeuer (770)
      [18:59:05.245 D] Waiting for MangleWoD2
      [18:59:05.623 D] 05:623 Trying to cast Faerie Fire (770) on Huschender Verderbnisstachel Dist: 1.78825076572713 reason FaerieFireWoD2
      [18:59:05.841 N] 05:841 HP: 100% Rage: 18 Huschender Verderbnisstachel 1.79y 68% HP Feenfeuer (770)
      [18:59:06.796 D] Waiting for MangleWoD2
      [18:59:07.078 D] 07:078 Trying to cast Faerie Fire (770) on Huschender Verderbnisstachel Dist: 1.78825076572713 reason FaerieFireWoD2
      [18:59:07.308 N] 07:308 HP: 99% Rage: 18 Huschender Verderbnisstachel 1.79y 68% HP Feenfeuer (770)
      [18:59:08.267 D] Waiting for MangleWoD2
      [18:59:08.514 D] 08:514 Trying to cast Faerie Fire (770) on Huschender Verderbnisstachel Dist: 1.78825076572713 reason FaerieFireWoD2
      [18:59:08.720 N] 08:720 HP: 100% Rage: 18 Huschender Verderbnisstachel 1.79y 62% HP Feenfeuer (770)
      [18:59:09.649 D] Waiting for MangleWoD2
      [18:59:10.006 D] 10:006 Trying to cast Faerie Fire (770) on Huschender Verderbnisstachel Dist: 1.78825076572713 reason FaerieFireWoD2
      [18:59:10.130 N] 10:130 HP: 100% Rage: 18 Huschender Verderbnisstachel 1.79y 55% HP Feenfeuer (770)
      [18:59:11.139 D] Waiting for MangleWoD2
      [18:59:11.469 D] 11:469 Trying to cast Faerie Fire (770) on Huschender Verderbnisstachel Dist: 1.78825076572713 reason FaerieFireWoD2
      [18:59:11.590 N] 11:590 HP: 100% Rage: 18 Huschender Verderbnisstachel 1.79y 49% HP Feenfeuer (770)
      [18:59:12.605 D] Waiting for MangleWoD2
      [18:59:12.953 D] 12:953 Trying to cast Faerie Fire (770) on Huschender Verderbnisstachel Dist: 1.78825076572713 reason FaerieFireWoD2
      [18:59:13.154 N] 13:154 HP: 98% Rage: 18 Huschender Verderbnisstachel 1.79y 42% HP Feenfeuer (770)
      [18:59:14.139 D] Waiting for MangleWoD2
      [18:59:14.400 D] 14:400 Trying to cast Faerie Fire (770) on Huschender Verderbnisstachel Dist: 1.78825076572713 reason FaerieFireWoD2
      [18:59:14.583 N] 14:583 HP: 98% Rage: 18 Huschender Verderbnisstachel 1.79y 36% HP Feenfeuer (770)[/hide]

      i don't think this is the prefered rotation for dudu tanks :)

      kr
      basti


      Edit: also happens with a fresh install of HB.
       

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    19. crampleg

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      why is it casting regrowth when hp is at 90% i have it set at 20%
       
    20. tuanha

      tuanha Well-Known Member

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      @basti: you are using old version, need download from my website and svn updte

      @guy complain about over heal: please read your class, if CR pass Gold Challenge Mode with 90% mana left, it must have something intelligent about mana management.

      For example you always need to Regrowth regardless of HP when ClearCasting about to expire or your Harmony buff going off.
       

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