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  • [PAID] [Priest] Insanity - An Advanced Honorbuddy Shadow Priest Routine [PvE/PvP]

    Discussion in 'Priest' started by Millz, Oct 27, 2013.

    1. WoWGamer829

      WoWGamer829 New Member

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      Hi quick question can this routine be used to level from 1-100?
       
    2. Millz

      Millz Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Yep, it can. It's optimized for level 100, but can be used at any level.
       
    3. alexandervba

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      Milzz, can you make a DOT weave rotation like this:

      start at 4 orbs:
      mind spike
      dots
      Mind blast
      Plague
      2x insanity
      mind blast
      plague
      2x insanity

      Both old/new dot weave isnt casting 2x insanity, while I think that would be the best dot weave atm.
       
    4. foxtrot08

      foxtrot08 New Member Legendary

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      Millz, I hope you can re-evaluate the rotations so it can maximize DPS to the highest potential. I am always last place on meters on every fight. Ilvl 668 Spriest do 40k dps while i do 24k dps. Please, please do something. I do not have any advice to offer because I have never played shadow priest. But I hope you can take the time to do research and maximize this CR's DPS capabilities.

      Thank you very much for the CR though. But i think it needs some improvement of some form
       
    5. Millz

      Millz Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      The struggle with trying to fit 2x Insanity's in is that you incur another GCD when MB comes off cooldown. Once you start getting haste gear (i.e. to push you over 20%) from BRF then dot weaving isn't really viable any more. AS is the new focused talent at this tier.

      Post a log file please.

      Ref:
      How To Attach a Log
       
    6. iamsonewb

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      I noticed in PVP it really does not do a good job of using Mass Dispel on Ice Block of Pally bubbles.
       
    7. Lotzadots

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      Hi there Xeddzul, used your settings in HM for a trial and secured myself a Heroic spot in BRF even though im only 650ilvl :).
      Thanks for the effort and time you have put into this, just wondering when you will be adding the last few bosses in BRF?
       
    8. Derogatory

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      I actually made it to 2250 using this routine in 3s. Really slick moves, the clutch silences and psychic horror peels etc.. Stuff you would never do manually without tons of macros and TONS of experience in 2k+ (which i have none)
      As long as you are half good at "Juking" your casts vs melee, which is pretty simple. I highly recommend this routine for Arenas and RBGs.
       
    9. Derogatory

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      Hey mate, I am actually 10/10HC at the moment, and have used this routine every step of the way.

      Stats are as follows now just so you have a reference point of some sort to see if this will work for you.

      682 ilvl with 4 piece HC tier. (this does change your playstyle considerably, i actually am no longer dotweaving but playing MoP rotation "coplite")

      27% crit (I enchant/gem crit, not mastery)
      19% haste (65% of the fight it's at 31% because of 4pc)
      500 mastery total (Unfortunately BRF gear is not itemized very well for Mastery/Multi) but that's cool. It gets better with crit and tier.
      15% Multi

      Talents are always, Insanity/Halo/Twist Of Fate/CoP
      Except for iron maidens, I Coplite still. But with AS/SoD and get about 37-38k. I personally don't understand the big deal with AS apart from that encounter. It's also ok on hanz/franz also, but i still parsed higher using coplite with insanity and COP.
      Again perhaps more crit is needed but i feel i am high enough to utilise it on maidens with great results.

      A few people may contradict what i am saying as far as using coplite over dotweave. I know a lot of the highest parsing priests in the world use mindspike/dotweave. But at the same time, my priest is ranked top 95% on warcraftlogs for US/EU for every encounter using CopLite in BRF. While weaving with spikes may be better for no movement fights. BRF has VERY FEW encounters like that. You're moving around a decent amount, especially in mythic. breaking mindspike is just fucking woeful if you ask me, such a huge dps loss i notice.

      I'm terrible at writing guides, but i do know what is working for me currently. I am sure Xeddul will come forward with something more informative with images and such to help.

      But I'll leave it at this, COPLITE is the way to go in BRF, stack crit and haste with some multistrike if you have access to it.

      One other thing. A lot of maximizing your Shadow priest's DPS comes from doing some things manually. It's a good routine but it's still a routine, logic is not always 100% and that's up to you to keep an eye out for.
      For instance It's not always wise to multi dot a target that will be dead in 5-15 seconds, the routine will do this if you do not stop it, so you would ideally manually cast Spikes and SWD (the routine doesn't always cancel casts for SWD, you need to do that yourself) We have the strongest execute in the game, make sure you're always putting our execute first if it's available before dots.
      TRINKETS Always use these manually! never just let the routine decide it's off CD and pop them, you may be mid air/running/in dispersion, it's just wasted! I personally use my trinkets and racial before i cast DP, or if my legendary ring has procced or i have any other substantial stats buffs at the time. HALO I think this is a given but I'll say it anyway. NEVER EVER have the combat routine automatically halo for you. Half the fights in BRF have adds or something that halo should be saved for, for instance, if you have it using it on beast-lord or something and you halo 5 seconds before adds come out, well you just lost about 500k damage that wont be coming back! I also find that the routine casts halo regardless of distance settings (may be a bug, not sure)
      DPS POTIONS use these manually also. Using on BL when we are not in execute phase is silly and a waste of 1k intellect. Use your 2nd dps potion under 20% with your trinkets/ring procs, will increase your finishing dps a lot.
      HOT-KEYS Can't stress this enough, millz has a lot of great toggle settings (including the rotation itself mid fight) I actually switch to COP standard to kill an add or two and rotate back to coplite to avoid fighting the routines casts
      BE PREEMPTIVE We have awesome addons like DBM/VEM/Weakauras which have timers that allow us to be preemptive with our casts and cooldowns. Don't blow a potion if you're about to switch phases and stuff like that, always make sure you'll be geting the most out of your self casted buffs. 100% uptime and usage should always be considered. Weakauras in particular is amazing for tracking your internal CDs like your ring proc. (That is effectively a DPS potion for 10 seconds) why wouldn't you use something else on top of it? right?

      I have not added settings files like Xed just for the simple fact that i honestly never change anything throughout BRF, only talents and the occasional rotation change for an add kill or buffed execute phase (sieges on blackhand or something)

      These small things are what i believe pushed me into the 95-99th percentile It's all about playing as flawlessly as you can and maximizing every single ability you have access to. I think a lot of us just expect the routine to run while we are alt tabbed and be ranking #1 on every fight, would be nice but it involves a fair amount of manual intervention to get the best results, and practice!

      I really hope this helps a bit man, I just realized how much i bloody typed! But I found a play style that works for me in BRF, and i wanted to share it with some of you. I think it will work well for you as well. if you have any specific questions feel free to message me and I'll do my best to give you a hand.

      Cheers.

      OH AND PS. Don't take your DPS on wipes as gospel. Your DPS on kills is what you need to be looking at. Skada on wipes will make you feel bad since our DPS ticks down into the 20s even if we were sitting at 40k on a wipe. Only consider your finishing DPS on kills. As i said we have the strongest execute in the game, i literally go up 4-5k at the end of a fight and pass most of my guildies. If your group is not reaching the last phase and blaming you for bad dps. Tell them to get fucked, they don't understand how the class works :)
       
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    10. Lotzadots

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      Cheers for the info mate, yeah we downed 3 bosses lastnight Operator, Flame and fanz. i was switching between CoP and Void a bit add dependant but will try your setup. thanks again
       
    11. Derogatory

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      here are some rankings from BRF HC. All using what i said in the previous post.

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    12. Lotzadots

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      Thanks for the in-depth guide derogatory :) I'll read more into it when I get a chance (bloody kids :p)
       
    13. Millz

      Millz Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      @Derogatory - Some cool info you've posted, nice to see.

      Millz' standard response for more information.

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      Finalllyyy someone who had the time to type down all of this ! Im doing totaly as u are and yeah u are pushing realy fair if u doing some things manualy. U cant as u said toggle on everything automatic and lay back and think u gonna push the insane numbers , Using the cds correctly and swap between Coplite and standard depending on the encounter will increese your dps .

      I just got a question for u about AS since ive not got the right gear yett but close . And yeah you 29 % with crit trinket should be by theory the best dps output on most fights with 2 or more targets so kinda most of the fights . Are u still going for Cop over as on most fights ?
       
    15. Derogatory

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      Iron maidens is virtually the only fight I use AS on.
      Other than that CoP is still the best choice. And i don't see that changing with perhaps the exception of VEnt when it is buffed, though on PTR it still seems a weak choice in comparison to the other two. I would say the bare minimum for AS critwise is 18-20% unbuffed. So with mage buff and your weapon enchant you'll be sitting on around 30%. very strong then.
       
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      Hi! i have 50% mastery 12.2 crit and 10 hast. all gems and chants - mastery. whether it makes sense to change all crit ( chant gems) and use COP lite? My dps very unstable, and I can not understand from what it depends. ilvl 675 , dps 28 - 37k, is mainly used Cop lite or Twist Of Fate
       
    17. Millz

      Millz Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Hey - Have a little read of this: https://www.thebuddyforum.com/thebu...-routine-pve-pvp-post1832400.html#post1832400
       
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      Just another quick fix needed, I mentioned before some LoS issues on Oregororogor or whatever his name is. I've noticed while doing my heroic run that the little piles on the ground on Blackhand are classes as LoS to the CR. But you can still cast through them, you know the ones that you hide behind when you're focused. Other than that I'm loving the CR again, the new CoPlite meta works so well!
       
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      Millz Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Hey - Thanks for the report, I've already caught that one - disable LoS on blackhand - will be in the next build.
       
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      Awesome dude! I don't have time to read every post so I thought I'd just mention it to make sure. Keep up the awesome work!
       

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