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  • [Lisbeth] Your own personal crafter!

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    1. Neverdyne

      Neverdyne Community Developer

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      Alright attach the last order you tried, I'll run it on my bot and see what the problem is.
       
    2. ephiron

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      View attachment Orders.txt
       
    3. ToastySweetFluff

      ToastySweetFluff New Member

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      Lisbeth seems to be calculating wrong on my end. My order is Finger Sandwich and I'm using Starry Night Miter. Lisbeth starts off with a Rapid Synth and then goes straight into hasty touch. Normally she would Rapid Synth > Careful Synth > Inner Quiet > Hasty Touch. This is causing a fail or she ends up finishing without using Byregots Blessing, she has 12 stacks of Inner Quiet, and often keeps using Hasty Touch even after hitting 100% quality with 50/80 durability left. When she gets to 20/80 she will then Careful Synth twice. This doesn't happen as often and I'm not sure what's triggering it. Otherwise it's a consistent fail from not doing a Careful Synth after the startup Steady Hand > Rapid Synth.

      I've tried both with and without Agil and with and without my stats in "Settings". On an interesting note without stats Lisbeth skips the progress altogether and starts off with Hasty Touch.
      Any ideas? It was working fine yesterday (same craft as a matter of fact) and it hasn't updated nor needed an update.
      If anyone needs to see my log I can post it but I'm not sure how to retrieve it other than copy and paste. I'm going to try a complete computer restart in the mean time.
       
    4. kagepande

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      IQ can't go higher then 11 stacks first off lol, but try completely closing Reborn, re-opening and trying again, but it let us know what happens after your computer restart, I have had a few issues be fixed by a program/computer restart lol
       
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      Yeah, I wasn't sure how many IQ stacks it had just knew 10 was enough and she kept going. After the restart; same problem. I tried completely closing and opening Reborn a few times before and after the restart and keep running into the same problem. :confused:
       
    6. Neverdyne

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      Lisbeth 2.0 is almost ready for the first round of testing. If there's anyone interested in helping me out to test a very specific part of it's functionality, let me know through a PM. It would involve testing out different recipes with different stats and making Lisbeth generate a sequence of skills and a predicted outcome, then compare that outcome with this site to see if Lisbeth's predictions are correct. It still doesn't involve anything in-game.
       
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      In the current version of Lisbeth, is there a good strategy for 3 star crafts for the 2nd Master book? I'm so far 0/7 HQ when trying to make Intricate Silver Brocade using HQ Silver Brocade and I've tried Starry Night Miter + Hasty n Kinky. Starry Night even broke one of my crafts. :/

      For reference, I've got 493 Craftsmanship, 427 Control, and 352 CP (I can use HQ Bouillabaise and have tried, didn't make a diff here)
       
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      I use Starry Night Miter and have no problems with almost the same stats as you. No food needed. Maybe you dont have the right skills selected? Check the skills list in the 1st post.
       
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      Would you be able to add waste not to these strategies? I think it would be a great benefit.
       
    10. Djdave

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      For which type of crafts? Waste not stops you using Tricks which in most cases loses you steps and CP.
       
    11. Chill84

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      You need to compare the quality and progress values. These are the hardest crafts in the game, and it's not possible to 100% hq them without luck. Most people regard them as 3.5 or 4 star crafts. I think a heuristic for these crafts would be hard to do since it is so dependent on what condition you get when, and many times you are taking calculated risks with 50-80% quality.

      To complete these crafts, in this manner, you would have to throw a great deal of money at fieldcraft IIIs.

      I suggest that you do these on your own and complete them with your own skills... HQing a masterbook II token to me, feels like downing a hard raid boss.

      @Neverdyne:

      This tool is amazing, you've taking mashtags crafting update and made the biggest leap forward for the community. Being able to craft stacks of materials that would otherwise take me HOURS of my own time just to sit there and press a crafting macro button over and over again has been a god send.
       
    12. Djdave

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      This information is wrong this basebot can HQ Silver Brocade, you can also HQ it with a Macro with the right stats 99% of the time. They are only for the Artisan tools, not the hardest crafts at all. I would say using Black Lotus for the Lucis turn-ins is much harder and random, but that's nothing to do with the basebot its the same if you did them yourself in game.
       
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      Are you seriously hassling me on my first post in 3 years?

      Read before you speak.
       
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      No hassling, just with HQ matts the basebot will HQ these with a high % with the right stats as much as doing them yourself. Melded, Food, FC Buff. Which is why in the previous post I mentioned selecting correct actions for the strat.

      I dont know why I assumed you where talking about the Artisan trade ins rather than the book.
       
    15. Neverdyne

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      Testers Wanted!

      If you're bored and got nothing to do, give testing Lisbeth a try! It's super fun! /Kappa

      What I'm testing is the solution search algorithm. It will search for a sequence of actions that gives the most quality while also guaranteeing completion. Modify the "stats.yaml" file with the stats you want to test, and run the console program. It would be a huge help to me if you could test out different recipes and player stats, while verifying that the sequence of skills Lisbeth outputs gives the correct amounts of quality / progress as expected. You can compare the results with this site: FFXIV Crafter.
       

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      For all of then while leveling maybe since it reduces durability.
       
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      I tried multiple recipes in the ilvl 50-70 range, and it appears to be calculating very, very close to the website.
      Skills wise, it's right on the money, however, some of the calculations for quality were off by just a tad, <10 quality in most cases.

      Overall, looks like your logic and algorithm is sound. Nice work yet again!
       
    18. Neverdyne

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      That is good to hear, still needs more refining before it is released and a lot of cleaning / optimizing the code. Last night I managed to make the solution search run multithreaded and added more pruning logic which made it considerably faster. Now I have to figure out how to hook it to RB due to the threaded tasks, I believe I saw an External Task thing on coroutines somewhere.
       
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      Have you been able to locate the issue of the bot crafting the same piece of gear regardless of the amount indicated in the order?
       
    20. SinisterJoint

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      Never -- Is lisbeth ok to use for the lucis turn-ins currently?
       
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