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  • What steps are being taken to prevent the next banwave?

    Discussion in 'Discussions (no Ban Reports here)' started by calvo, Dec 16, 2015.

    1. mikkemus

      mikkemus New Member

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      Yeah. Tell me you wouldnt cry if you got banned 3 times on 3 battlenet accounts in 1 week because of detection. You sir, are maybe talking about a ban every 6 months.. which is fine.. but i was actually banned with "safe" stuff that have been safe for 6 or more months. all in 1 week!
       
    2. Kronz

      Kronz New Member

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      Yeah something should be done about these banwaves. It's very frustrating. I botted for a month and a half and I feel very disappointed with the situation. I remember when HB was totally undetected and only bans came from player reports and there were no banwaves and appeals worked. Now two banwaves in 6 months. Just wow. I feel unreal.
       
    3. azulian

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      Recoding isnt a waste of time. if you know how coding works you wouldnt think its so easy to get the information from a compiled program, one of the possible reasons why they were so easily able to find the people could of been the source code they got from sbuddy which might use the same code as hbuddy, but recoding it could and most likely will help the bot stay hidden.
       
    4. azulian

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      You agreed to their TOS which doesnt allow bots, By your logic, Lets join the Olympics then Sue them for not letting us use cars in a race against other runners, why cant we use a gun in the boxing matches, why can we use a bowgun for the archery, why can we use a boat engine for the rowing. Its against the rules that why they dont allow it. you are also agreeing that if you break the rules you get punished. You sir are an Idiot,
       
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    5. netlynx

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      I have been permabanned on 6 battlenet accounts, and several suspensions prior to those, and now hit with the latest banwave. I admit the first time stung a little as it was my main account and I had really worked hard over the years to build it up (pre-botting). I don't know what you mean by banned with "safe stuff", but I have even got a permaban on an account that was never even botted on because of a linked credit card. So, no I don't bother worrying too much about bans, but in the end I stand by my statement "You all need to start taking responsibility for your own actions, your actions included botting, live with the consequences instead of trying to throw blame on others. If you don't want to get banned for botting, don't bot. Simple as that."

      I am sorry to those that got pinched in the latest round, it does suck when you gotta start over or wait for a suspension to be lifted, but you get busted for breaking the ToS, its on you, and no one else. Accept it and move on instead of blaming everyone else for you breaking the rules. So no, I wouldn't cry about getting banned 3 times on 3 battlenet accounts, this last wave is just an excuse for me to take a break for a little while and come back to enjoy the release of Legion and the new content when its available then.

      Peace, and happy holidays (see, now y'all have no excuse to spend with loved ones this holiday season :p)
       
    6. louevil

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      Look, everyone is upset. But the responsibility lies with you and only you. You knew the risks. It's the gamble you took, not anyone else. We all did. Only person to blame is you.
       
    7. mekrenon

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      Seriously, put another 20 bucks down and you're back in the game. If your suspensions are causing problems for you socially, ie. your guild, then you should consider having a clean account that you don't bot on. Personally I don't give a shit because I only PvP and can gear up an another alt toon in two days and be right back in there.

      I know it's not the answer you want to hear if you feel entitled to ***** the system without consequence but that's the reality. Almost any game developer is going to try to protect the integrity of their game.
       
    8. Frayman

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      What I want to know Is WHY invest time and money into another account at all? The Bot is detected right? it hadnt been fixed since the May bans from what I can see.

      But Its definately apparent to me that Blizzard is fine with us doing what we do for short periods becasue they just have folks like you and me (formerly) that go out and buy thier crappy game again and hand them boat loads of cash , only for them to rinse and repeat the same thing over and over ..I am happy to be done with it ...I do enjoy this forum however
       
    9. calvo

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      we know botting comes with risks. when part of the marketing tells me the bot is undetectable by software, that absolutely affects my calculated decision to bot or not.
      if this is being detected with software and no effort is being made to hide it, then of course, i feel deceived. i wont bot again until HB comes out and says it is undetectable again.
       
    10. Kurant

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      Maybe they didn't know it was broken? They probably had just as many questions as you did about detection and such after the May banwave. It isn't a simple thing. Some of these comments are quite good, but some people truly don't understand how difficult it is.

      I coded for AT&T enterprise, doing small intraweb network's for enterprise and corporate customers - coding isn't as simple as it seems. Blizzard has access to anything they want at their disposal. They have some of the finest coders in the world building and consulting with them. There are people out there that will blow your mind. George Hotz reverse engineered and built a root in 3 days for a $2000+ bounty on Samsung phones that he documented and released step by step after a community of people couldn't do it in 5 1/2 months.. And it isn't like Blizzard didn't have access to this bot - it's right here.

      I know people are pissed off. I lost 2 accounts too.. . But to just place all the blame on Bossland is just crazy. His product got beat, and I can promise you with the litigation he is in with Blizzard, the last thing he wanted to do was watch Blizzard ruin his product. The one I've always questioned as a coder was Bossland's denial of using x64 architecture... I don't code any more, I'm an accountant, I do corporate taxes all day but what little I do know, I'm not totally convinced x64 prevents this either... But here we are.
       
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