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    Discussion in 'Archives' started by sxowe, Dec 30, 2015.

    1. Tormiasz

      Tormiasz Community Developer

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      That's just screen with guy's IIR and IIQ. What would it prove?
       
    2. StrongBG

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      He is probably still drunk :).Don't bother with him,i already stopped responding to his bullshit.
       
    3. darkbluefirefly

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      1. That IIR is over 250
      2. Actual build on forums, and legacy items were needed.
      3. Picture worth a thousand words, esp if it's from official forums

      1. I'm not drunk, maybe you are on all that bullshit you're spreading. I called you out, you have yet to show concrete proof.

      You're not one shotting jack shit dude, stop lying to yourself.
       
    4. StrongBG

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      DBF still drunk 100% confirmed.Good that you dont have 100 of the bots i run cuz it would really be bad for the poe economic.
       
    5. darkbluefirefly

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      [​IMG]

      One of 10

      Got lazy renaming the exes cause you know, they supposedly don't check exe names?

      Tangible proof.

      Edit, wonder how much u get Chaos : Ex atm on scrubcore. 70:1?

      Let's make it 100:1 by the end of this week, so whatever profits you will make drops, substantially.
       
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    6. toNyx

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      People will never change, even in 2k16 xD damn kiss each others bang each others i don't know, who cares who got the biggest, :D
       
    7. darkbluefirefly

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      I'm just calling this dude out, he keeps whacking around the bush.

      My facts stem from

      https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3jlxnt/question_is_mf_worth_it/

      So things don't make sense? I call you out.

      Also
       
    8. tozededao

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      Especially over the internet.

      I don't know which one is worse, one clearly bashes the other but still tries to proof how good he is. I mean, if the guy whos asking is such a bad guy why does the other try so hard to proove him something. It is really amazing how you can see someone's life in a screenshot :D
       
    9. Tormiasz

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      Some people will never agree that they are wrong and won't admit that. My father is like that, he'll even insult you or tell you bullshitiest things as arguments for his theory. I say something but he always know better.
       
    10. darkbluefirefly

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      It's the internet, so your point? You basically contradicted your first sentence.
      The other guy "tires", and stopped as soon as I kept rebutting him, if what you are saying is concrete, he would have either.

      - Posted his char's MF with his name blanked out, hence why I posted that picture of the 300+ mf from official forums.
      - Posted some build theory, or even DPS
      - Posting a log from AIF then referring to a pic 2 days ago from Map Runner, means nothing. I've ran High MF toons, on maps, bosses, dried lake, sac spam farming. I think I would assume I know my facts.

      "I mean, if the guy whos asking is such a bad guy why does the other try so hard to proove him something"
      Conversely, It could be said that I'm trying to prove my facts correct, therefore I'm trying to prove something?

      He has yet to prove me wrong, so you have a shitty father so what? How am I wrong when the one making claims, facts posts a bunch of factorial, easily faked information, trying to prove a point, and clearly hasn't. The thing is, if you have something to prove, you will prove it, not dismiss it after I rebuke your nonsense facts.

      First it was 250 IIR/0IIQ
      https://www.thebuddyforum.com/exilebuddy-forum/235102-fastest-strongest-bot-friendly-mf-build-talisman-post2124359.html#post2124359

      Then he says 30k DPS, 260 IIR
      https://www.thebuddyforum.com/exilebuddy-forum/235102-fastest-strongest-bot-friendly-mf-build-talisman-post2124732.html#post2124732


      From his picture
      [​IMG]

      6 Hours 27 minutes 38 seconds Uptime = 23362.8 Seconds
      7 Minutes 43 seconds Average = 445.8 Seconds

      Map Runner Defines it's average as

      _mapTimings.Add(IntRound(_mapTimer.Elapsed.TotalSeconds));
      AverageTimeSpent = TimeSpan.FromSeconds(_mapTimings.Average()).ToString("hh\\:mm\\:ss");

      So everytime a map is done, it adds it to the _mapTimings List<Int>, then averages it using SUM/Length in list? ( not too sure about this but it's average )

      So from 40 maps done with an average of 445.8 Seconds per map, we can do a guess

      17932 Seconds Total IN MAPS

      23362.8 Seconds - 17932 Seconds = 5530.8 Seconds convert to minutes

      92.18 so about an hour and a half of time in town/jerking off

      2 mins 30 seconds~ ish.

      From
      https://www.thebuddyforum.com/exilebuddy-forum/235102-fastest-strongest-bot-friendly-mf-build-talisman-post2124750.html#post2124750

      You are getting Chaos Orb x114 from 24 hours?
      Orb of Alteration x1649 in 24 hours? With 6 Portals to the map? That one seemed off.
      So you are getting rings only? How about them chaos recipes? are they quality too? for +3 chaos?

      The time it takes to pick up and do town runs, for that many alts I assume from selling rares, and chaos from chaos recipe, that cannot be right, even with that much IIR.

      I run that much IIR on my "100" bots you were so eager to prove wrong. 24/7, and I can tell you, those numbers you're putting out, looks fishy.

      Town runs won't add up to amount of alts you are getting from selling rares, chaos doesn't either. You spend 2 minutes 30 seconds average in town, EB doesn't do thing that fast lol.

      What other magical facts are you and your "group of friends" going to tell me next?

      Edit, you must have a full log of a 24 hours run as well right? That's sufficient proof.
       
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    11. tozededao

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      You try too hard to prove something that no one cares about.
       
    12. Tormiasz

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      @dbf
      I just said that I'm one shooting mobs and you called me that I'm lying myself. I know what I see. You should check bladefall. It's really nice skill in 2.1. With 7ex budget and no IIR i've managed to get 80k DPS and with IIR 45k. All with non-crit build.
       
    13. darkbluefirefly

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      I guess you are no one then? Since you cared to reply? Or is that your way of saying shit, he's right but I can't admit that, it's the internet!

      You keep contradicting your self, thus invalid, like your code.

      [​IMG]

      You never mentioned bladefall. You just specified 2 gems and said you could one shot 74 mobs. Then you said 300 IIR as well, now you are saying no IIR?
       
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    14. Tormiasz

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      You really have problems with understanding what I wrote? xD With MF gear 45k DPS, without 80. I mentioned earlier that Vulnerability gives very high boost to all physical damage. Now I specified what main skill I used to achieve the numbers. What's the problem?

      And about "group of friends", I'm no friends with StrongBG. I cared to reply and it's not because Im on one side or the other, I just like to join the discussion.
       
    15. darkbluefirefly

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      Ok I re-read that, I was a little confused about the earlier statement about oneshotting with 300 IIR. Thanks for clearing that up, and you're not using legacy equip?
      Mind posting the tooltip DPS image?

      Yea this was never about it's not possible to one shot, or it's not possible to get high IIR w/o legacy.
      It's about

      You are not one shotting mobs(blues ones included) with that much IIR and no legacy or mirrored equip. You might be 2 shotting or bursting, but not consistently one shotting.

      Then he goes and posts a "factual" post about the stats of his setups and the info he has from logs.

      I called him a liar on the AIF log because the numbers made no sense to what he was saying, then I did the math in a post saying it. He's yet to respond, I believe he won't because he's going to dig a deeper hole, or he's sleeping.

      tozededao is probably a friendzoned one. Says something, I tell him he's contradicting himself, then goes and does it again. If you can't add proof to your buddy's claims, then don't make yourself look stupid.
       
    16. darkbluefirefly

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      Oh the meme was meant for tozededao, I'll edit that now.
       
    17. Tormiasz

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      300 IIR without legacy is easly possible. 2x Andvarius (even one), Greed's, 50 IIR helmet, Aurseize, Distillate and you can easly achieve over 400-500.

      [​IMG]
      Gem's still need to lvl up. Screen is without Hatred up. It's with Herald of Ash and Arctic Armour, I lowered my DPS to gain some more survivability.
      And no Taste of Hate as well (cuz I dont have one on Talisman).

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      My current MF. With Distillate it's over 300. There are still room for improvments because I'm running w/o Andvarius nor Greed's Embrace in this setup.

      I call it oneshotting because the mobs dies with one click of mouse. It's actually two shots because of Spell Echo.


      On budget version I run with 5L Pledge because it give's me 6L from built-in mod. It costed me 3ex if I remember correctly. Full DPS mode would run double wands with high spell damage and cast speed + 6L chest.
      I would make you a screen with 80k DPS tooltip but I've sold my stuff on standard and not playing that char anymore so you need to trust my words.
       
    18. darkbluefirefly

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      See, that's how you prove your point and make someone believe you. Thank you for taking the time to do this.

      Yea, spell echo technicalities =). And yea I assumed MF flask, but the op dude never mentioned anything aside from some flail info.
       
    19. laurentiuman

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      how the hell you run so many clients and not get banned
       
    20. StrongBG

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      Oh god this still goes on...Why would i post anything about my build i just said what my bots farm and because there is this guy(DBF)who doesnt believe a shit ill have to show my build,my setup,my gear in pictures?No,thanks.Usually with 250-260 iir my bot uses 4-5 portals on each map.Without this iir he uses 1-2 max

      pic 1.png
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      2 deaths per hour yea yea no defensive gems(loaded with empowers)
       

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