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  • [Query] Grind-Profile-Plugin, should it be kept private?

    Discussion in 'Archives' started by j0achim, Jan 21, 2011.

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    Should it be released?

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    2. No

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    3. Don't care.

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    4. You have to do something about how to obtain profiles.

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    1. j0achim

      j0achim New Member

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      Some of you might know that I've been working on a Grind-Profile-Plugin project for some time. But there is not really any clarity if its "right" if its released.



      So whats the idea with this?

      The basic idea is making grinding a automated task, and not a day worth of research on the forum for the "perfect" profile. No matter where you are or what level you are. (ofc trying to start a lvl 1 in Northrend, Outlands... would fail) [Read more about features further down.]


      How does this work?

      A small plugin will tell my web-server its Location, Level, Faction and ContinentID. A script on the web-server then make a profile most suiting your character depending on the factors given.

      Heres a small scenario, i make a new character a Orc Hunter, i then start the bot, bot then tells the server I am a lvl 1 character, Im located in Kalmidor, and i am in the starting area (would actually tell It It's X,Y and Z location). Now server replies with a profile. It has several profiles for Kalmidor, and there are several profiles for a lvl 1. But It will pick the profile which is closest distance from my location. So it replies with a profile in the orc starting area.

      Further down the road i plan to expand this idea with having additional filters so which a profile found would also suit your character depending on its class, profession etc.. [Read more about technical information further down.]


      Do you make the profiles in the database?

      No, i do not make the profiles in the database. I use a process called xml-parse where then all "required" data is then transfered to a database where its all tied together. I view profiles as "open source" if you willingly share it without any form to license, i can do whatever i like with it. I have not read any concrete laws about this otherwise. However i do understand the ethical perspective, which is why I made this thread in the first place.


      So basically you are stealing other peoples work?

      No, its not about stealing, if a profile-writer do not want their profile in this database i remove it, by default a profile author is credited by the name of the original name of the profile + its name. A example would be "Profile loaded: Orc 1-3 [Author: j0achim]" and a few lines in the profile as commented text. Every profile will include, thread where i found the profile. Original Author. Misc...

      A disclaimer is provided in a profile stating that i have not made the profile and that its only stored in the database and "recreated" to include, original author, mailbox, vendor, protected items, etc...


      Features
      • Level filtering
      • Location filtering
      • Continent filtering
      • Side filtering (horde/alliance)
      • Vendor filtering
      • Mailbox filtering
      • Protected Items filtering
      These are the current filters i have already implemented. And I've briefly tested the plugin and it performs as intended, i leveled 5 hunters 1 - 19, and a few high lvl chars 50, 60, 70 and it performs nicely.


      Technical Information
      Back-end is a Apache web-server running PHP and MySQL, profiles are parsed with a PHP script using DOM object. The Honorbuddy plugin itself downloads profile generated by server then loads it. This happens on events such as level-up and when bot is started.


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      As you might understand i fully respect other peoples work and i do not want to come here and make any drama. If this is not wanted i wont release it.



      If you vote anything but Yes and Dont care, please reply to this thread and be objective why it should not be released.



      Yours sincerely
      j0achim
       
      Last edited: Jan 22, 2011
    2. Nab

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      Well it looks very usefull, I just don't like letting a plugin download something from a non HB-staff server.
       
    3. Tony

      Tony "The Bee" Staff Member Moderator

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      its a yes ofc
       
    4. collinetnick

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      Yes, but i have a temp ban from grinding. :( make it anyways tho.
       
    5. cawpet

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      A yes from me. Also, nice work :).
       
    6. xvampx

      xvampx New Member

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      looks very nice :D

      i have profiles (grind) for almost any race/class from lvl 1 to 85. you can use them if you want ^^

      i like the idea :)
       
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      Whooops, didn't read the vote and thought it was about if it should be released, so I clicked Yes. It is a No of course, I am of the opinion you should release this, because it sounds very promising. The only thing I "fear" is that it could get a bit to stereotypical, always using the same profiles.
      But yeah, release it, i wouldn't see why not!
       
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      I think it would be a great addition. Nice way to save a little time when loading up a new character
       
    9. newcharacter

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      I'm sure most of the people who are voting or will vote are jumping the gun a bit here and have clicked Yes instead of No. Keep that in mind!

      I see no reason for you not to release this plugin
       
    10. j0achim

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      Let me clarify, it sends a string similar to my example to the server:

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      http://server.address.com/generatexml.php?level=62&class=mage&continent=1&x=321&y=100&z=45

      If we now analyze what this means:

      Level = level of your character.
      Class = Class of your character.
      Continent = Which continent your character is currently on.
      X,Y,Z = Your character location.


      Server then just echoes a page in XML format. which is saved by the plugin then loaded. If a xml is not properly formated HB would warn/stop if it is not able to run it. And the plugin itself is open for everyone to view as it runs barely 20 lines of code.
       
    11. xvampx

      xvampx New Member

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      to all the people that say it should get released... i dunno.
      i dont mind keeping this private. or even handed out to a select few for that case. it seems like a nice plugin but nothing you cant do yourself by making your own profile or even for the lazy ones download one from the forums.
       
    12. j0achim

      j0achim New Member

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      I've sent a message to tony asking him to reset the poll and change the question to something else.
       
    13. Tony

      Tony "The Bee" Staff Member Moderator

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      there is no option to reset it

      results swapped
      and question changed
       
    14. j0achim

      j0achim New Member

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      Thanks.
       
    15. cawpet

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      So who are the 2 no's now? :p. Because I sure as hell didn't want it releasing tbh.

      It's a great plugin, and for that reason, I want it to stay that way.. I think it'd need changes before being handed out to the public if it were to cater for such a large community. That & illegal users got it, which they would, making the user base even larger.
       
    16. Klovnene

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      One feature that would be cool to be added, is also if u want to farm in rep, u just pick the rep and it will pick the most suitable profile for that rep grinding ;D im a rep whore ;D
       
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      should be released, yes.. sounds like a neat idea.
       
    18. Mannyste

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      yea this springs to my mind when i think about tthe plugin

      ppl using it will be using the same profile

      will you be able to upload your own profiles to a server?
      will a random profile picking function be intergrated into the plugin?

      and taking out the MIDDLE MAN ( honorbuddy website) where we have to come and look for a profile download it and load it.. sometimes ppl who make profiles do a little bit of information about the actual profile. maybe if your plugin finds a desired profile to use for the Consumers criteria there will be some AUTHORs information regarding the profile (PUT SOME GOOD GEAR ON COZ THESE MURLOCKS HIT LIKE IVAN DRAGO) in a seperate window.

      i say release it :)
       
      Last edited: Jan 21, 2011
    19. dayloon

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      If you've got something which is going to benefit the community who on earth is going to vote no? Bit of a silly poll
       
    20. iesux

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      a bit harsh I would say. His question regards how we think should be somehow the "licence " of a profile and if he should freely use them into his plugin.

      on the topic: sharing is caring:)
       
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