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  • Banwave 10-11-2016 Discussion

    Discussion in 'Archives' started by raphus, Nov 10, 2016.

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    1. k4njin

      k4njin Member

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      I agree with the routine. Just for disabled people for me, they can serve.
      But i disagree with the real money income. For me they are a good reason to ban everyone, but this is my idea, and i respect yours but i'm in disaccord with it. :)
      Everyone is guilty when we use 3rd part program, but...i think there are several types of guiltyness.

      For me, blizzard gains a lot with money sellers. That's why they do banwaves. But a payed farmer or a robot farmer for me are the same thing. But they never take actions agains humans treated like robots in some country cause they don't gain anything out of it.

      Why blizzard would ban like 10.000 players non gold sellers?
      Why blizzard would ban like 90.000 sellers + 10.000 non sellers?
      If 90.000 buy another acc, there will be 90.000 X 30 dollars + tokens,subs, etc... and they will probably buy it.
      The 10.000 ones will probably buy another acc? I don't know...but if blizzard will lose their subs,token or whatever, the will lose only 10.000 x 13 per month, or whatever tokens,etc.

      The numbers may be different, maybe 60.000 sellers and 40.000 personal users? I don't know but i think that the majority are gold sellers,no?

      I like to confront ideas with you all. But please, keep the conversation civil. Use moderate tones even if we have a very different ideas. :)
       
    2. Quarellike

      Quarellike New Member

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      Hello
      After this series of ban someone manages to get back in? I'm talking about banning such as 6 months. Is this at all possible?

      Regards
      Quarellike
       
    3. cagefighter3535

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      actually i am a routine only use some times, but i love the questing bot. in my opinion its people like me that are more to blame. Routine only. Its when we started showing up in arena, and rbgs rated that they really got a fire under there butts
       
    4. munkafan

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      wooaah!
      Get of your high horse there.¨
      Bashing people like that should end up with a warning, seeing ppl get warnings here for less.

      You go there Mr. Hardcore.
      What are you even doing in these forums being so hardcore?
       
    5. Digga2

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      How is stating facts bashing people? Lmao he's not being hardcore, he's being real, you are just a loser at the game and can't even realize it. Please go away SJW pleb.
       
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      it´s now safe to bot ?? for now ?
       
    7. pimpampum

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      Edited your message for length. I see Hb being useful for disabled people, of course. But, in all honestly, I think that there is 1 really disabled person for each 10 here that claim to.

      And, beyond that, it doesn't compete to Botmakers to deal with this, but to the game makers.

      And you talk about guiltiness levels. I actually think that anyone using Hb to fake their own skills , be it in PvP or PvE, is affecting everybody that happens to play with or against them.

      To a much bigger extent than someone making gold out of the game. Gold making can affect the economy, obviously, though some people think that positively. But when a routineuser, Mr. "tuanhapro" , beat that other girl who is trying her best to get a raid spot, and get her benched, you are affecting her much more deeply.

      Absolutely. Agreed 100%.

      If I am to be "warned" for openly expressing what I think, and what lots of other old-time botters think, so be it.

      What made you think I am Mr. Hardcore?? the fact that I can and do play the game in both PvE and PvP with my own hands? (no pun intended).

      If so, yeah I am really Hardcore. But ain't that the purpose of the game on the first place?

      I've been in these forums for much longer than you, and probably will. In my opinion,and most of the oldtimers hers, Routine users-casuals are the ones who don't belong here. Are you included in that definition?
       
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      When is the bot back?
       
    9. k4njin

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      For the routines i am totally in agree with you. A routine user that bench a normal player is guilty as the hardcore gold seller. But for me the casual botter that farms for him is less guilty than the other two. But it's absolutely guilty, no matter what :)
       
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      No. There wasn't any update to the bot since the banwave.
       
    11. munkafan

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      You are talking about "purpose of the game", yet you are a long time user of HB?

      I think only that sentence says it all about you...
      Calling ppl that use routines stupidly dumb is quite bashing to a big part of this community.
      No one cares if you have been here since glider, really no one.

      Never used a routine from here except singular for leveling though and been here since 2013 (took a break and lost my former account first).
       
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      friend of mine setup 6 yesterday, all are banned now. the detection seems to be still running.
       
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      i dont understand why HB cannot created undetectable logging.... -.- -.- -.-
       
    14. pimpampum

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      Glad we could meet a reaching point on the routines being extremely culprit of the current Hb witch-hunt within Blizzard.

      Actually, before routines showed up, when the bot was limited to Questing / gathering / non-intrusive tasks, there was a sense of community here. People made profiles free of charge. REALLY; WE DID. I know it's hard to believe with the current iteration of the BuddyStore.

      Unfortunately, while I think that there are levels of guiltiness in here, i do not share your "casual botter" perspective. Think about it this way: if someone devotes his time, knowledge and will to gold selling, which is a full time job, he is trying to find a way of living for him. When the casual botter farms for him, he is not doing so for a living; just to get an unfair advantage over the rest of the players, be it in real time spent, resource making, materials, whatever.

      Who is the one to blame? A person trying to make a living out of the game, or the one who is trying to "get his part of the cake" unfairly?

      I'd like to point that, even though I can understand them and try to get in their skin, I am in no way a big gold seller.

      It is too easy to go all Trump out and try to point at someone else of our own-created problems. Even if that get a lot of support and fanatism around.

      Yeah, I talk about Purpose of the game being a long time user of HB.

      Does using Hb makes you unable to think or something?

      If you don't know what to answer, just don't. Please refrain from wasting our time with your kiddy nonsense.

      Nobody asked what you used or how long you've been here. No one cares about you.. The times when this was a community are long gone, for your information. Probably because of folks like you.

      So many people "lost their original account" and "have been here since glider". Laughable.
       
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      Right now you get a ban within 12 hours as has been noticed if you disable tripwire and bot now. So at this point it would not work and you cannot make any profits whatsoever using HB. Some even got a ban in 2 hours recently.
       
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      First ban after 5 year, on both account,but OK,only 6 month. anyway shit happens, I'm still loyal with you guys!
       
    17. munkafan

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      Purpose of the game is playing it, not using bots...

      You are delirious.

      If you exploit the game you are kinda ignoring the purpose of the game. Be that you farm gold, questing or using rotations.
      So quit whining on ppl taking advantage of exploits just as you do.
       
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      Any idea when we can bot again? Fuck World Quests
       
    19. kodge

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      guys the ban waves are not every 6 months , they are at least every 6 weeks from what ive experienced , got 2 toons to around 872 in legion just as I'm getting around lvl 28 on artefact a ban hits and starts all over again , coincidence ?
       
    20. pimpampum

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      I asked you to simply stop answering if you had nothing remotely intelligent to say. I wish you had.

      It's the routine-users in this same thread who started pointing at gold sellers as responsible for Honorbuddy being targeted by Blizzard.


      The purpose of the game is not playing it, kid. Is having fun and spending your time. How you achieve that is yours to choose.


      Btw, I think you have already depicted yourself to me and anyone else reading this thread. I'll ignore your crap from now onwards. This is an interesting thread that does not deserve your comments.
       
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