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    Discussion in 'Archives' started by Keanu, Jan 21, 2010.

    1. bossland

      bossland Administrator

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      MMototus is based in EU - i never believed they got a cod and i think the guy just searched for a way to escape his situation
       
    2. Mario27

      Mario27 Banned

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      ok then its my fault so they really can get the hang of it to close Eu Bot makers or if you fight agains it not?
       
    3. haxed

      haxed New Member

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      I used Glider from day one of release, i always found the tripwire fantastic on that and never had an account banned for years. I think as the Gatherbuddy community grows its when blizzard start to take note of what is going on and then what happened with glider could happen. There was thousands of people using that program with monthly subscriptions being paid, blizzard don't want people making money from thier game, so they have to make a stand and try and catch people.

      For detection im presuming that aslong as the tripwire is there the only way of detecting the program is by the warden or blizzard are breaking the rules themselves. I for one wouldn't mind paying a little more monthly and to keep the numbers down that use the bot, to make it like an exlusive program but i can't see that happening.
       
    4. Mario27

      Mario27 Banned

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      i know glider was awsome but this is better then glider because the nevmesh is newer and better then ppather i used glider for 2 years and it was awsome
       
    5. haxed

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      Yeah I have been using this for about 2 weeks now, and i love how it works i think the big change is how natural the movment looks compared to other bots ive used. Even if I got banned I wouldnt care, i think the people that moan about the *MIGHT* be banned situation are the people that bot with thier main account.
       
    6. king

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      Yea im not sure this is true. Why wouldnt they do something? I know the can't got and try to have it shutdown, but they will certainly ban people who use it.
       
    7. haxed

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      Thats my point though, define safe? safe for me is the tripwire doing its job. The biggest problem with botting is the person behind the keyboard. If people are whispering you saying *why are you always here* when your botting then you know you have problems. I aren't saying your crap at using the program im just saying that the only issue of being safe when the bot isnt detected is the user doing it properly.
       
    8. LAP87

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      Tripwire was born from Lax over at Lavishsoft when the ISXWOW community still was going strong, it's thanks to us that this bot even has the means to use navmesh (formerly LavNav, and then Greyman's version).
      The old isxwarden protection was covering all fronts, client updates and warden changes, system scans and whatnot.

      When glider was hit really hard over and over, Lax offered to help and thus Tripwire was born. A weaker form of protection, since it doesn't inject and disrupt Warden.

      So the security is bland, we are detectable on many levels. It really just depends on if Blizz looks our way or not.

      Bossland, Hawker, correct me if i'm wrong here. But this is how i've understood it from reading alot of "security" posts all over the botting community.
       
    9. Keanu

      Keanu Member Buddy Store Developer

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      That's what I am talking about, developers answer please.
       
    10. iconz

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      Botting is always a risk take that as you may... there is no device,application,webpage,code,safety net or anything out there stopping your account from being banned... its cut and dry

      tripwire simply monitors what it can and dev shut down on whims of there own knowledge of accounts banned with there application.. still doesnt mean a gm couldnt be flying high up and see you and remove you from game... doesnt mean they cant ban you for selling 10000 bars of saronite... i mean come on guy its USE AT OWN RISK...
       
    11. ru812

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      This statement isn't entirely true. Near the end of public versions of isxwow/isxwarden Bliz hit us pretty hard with a couple sneaky client updates (not warden updates) and killed lots and lots of isx users. I know I lost about 20 accounts in June and July of ... I think it was 08.
       
    12. Keanu

      Keanu Member Buddy Store Developer

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      20 accounts? So you were making good money out of it? Are you still in business? How many are u running now and what public or private bot do u use?
       
    13. Zezuio

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      What is tripwire? i dont get it :eek:
       
    14. haxed

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      If i remember from glider, tripwire is what monitors the warden that scans our computers and from time to time it updates remember the warden that we agree to in the TOS :p
       
    15. Zezuio

      Zezuio New Member

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      So What do Tripwire do against us? And what features do this bot have to prevent detection : )?
       
    16. haxed

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      It's what monitors the warden, if it changes the wire trips... so to speak and then you won't beable to log onto the bot and it will cut all active connections at the time of the change.

      This is where some bots will fail because the monitor they use can be a bit lapse.
       
    17. wilsonj17

      wilsonj17 Active Member

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      I dont want to flame or accuse but no one acctually no's if the tripwire actually works of this time since it's never tripped due to blizz not catching us yet (yes i know about when it cought us when we had the tripwire i was a banned victim of GB but im not getting into it since warden updated and the tripwire wasnt enabled till a day later) aswell as if the client updates and we download the patches warden could implement a bode into the patch which will bypass the tripwire, about people flaming about Kynox and cypher if you dont know them i suggest you keep your feeling's to yourself they might be abit harsh at times but if it wasnt for them there wouldnt be as much bots on the net since warden would keep banning over and over. As from now HB and GB is the best on the net with the best dev support with constant updates so i put all my trust in HB that it will be some time till warden hits us again :p
       
    18. Zezuio

      Zezuio New Member

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      So basically Tripwire helps us from getting banned :)? And if im getting detected by warden Tripwire shutdown HB?
       
    19. wilsonj17

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      Yes it will stop us getting banned unless warden guy implements a sneaky update and bypasses the tripwire
       
    20. Znyx

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      If tripwire detects a warden change, then yes it will shut down our HB and wow.
       

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