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    1. strix

      strix New Member

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      Yep, it's the way it should work.
       
    2. booboo123

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      Strix, I'm having the same problems. Any thoughts?
      Hayt: Any luck figuring this out?

      Thanks!!
       
    3. deathwhispr

      deathwhispr New Member

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      After babysitting my bot for a few hours ive noticed something odd. Im running it on mixed bot to grind/pvp and i will post a log to show what this bot doesnt do. In my opinion in pvp and even grinding for exp these two abilities are ESSENTIAL!

      Anyone else see my problem? Where is Shadowstep/Ambush? :( *sadface for backstabbing out of my stealth...

      Looting Savage Hill Brute Guid:0xF13073B70062B94D
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Shiv.
      Casted Kick.
      Casted Dismantle.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Feint.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Shiv.
      Casted Stealth.
      Looting Savage Hill Scavenger Guid:0xF13072DC0062BB46
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Vanish.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Kick.
      Casted Shadow Dance.
      Casted Premeditation.
      Casted Cheap Shot.
      Casted Slice and Dice.
      Casted Garrote.
      Casted Ambush.
      Looting Savage Hill Scavenger Guid:0xF13072DC0062B666
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Backstab.
      Casted Shiv.
      Looting Savage Hill Brute Guid:0xF13073B70062B56B
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Shiv.
      Casted Kick.
      Casted Dismantle.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Evasion.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Feint.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Shadow Dance.
      Casted Premeditation.
      Casted Cheap Shot.
      Casted Rupture.
      Looting Savage Hill Scavenger Guid:0xF13072DC0062B667
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Shiv.
      Casted Kick.
      Casted Backstab.
      WoW cannot be minimized while running Honorbuddy!
      Casted Backstab.
      Casted Kick.
      Casted Backstab.
      Casted Shiv.
      Looting Savage Hill Scavenger Guid:0xF13072DC00629F5D
      Mounting: Swift White Hawkstrider
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Shiv.
      Casted Shadow Dance.
      Casted Premeditation.
      Casted Garrote.
      Casted Vanish.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Recuperate.
       
    4. strix

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      Added SS->Ambush

      Also if you want to grind i would suggest you to use non-dagger weapons as they're more viable for solo play.
       
      Last edited: Sep 18, 2011
    5. Hayt

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      I've notice myself that the CC doesn't use Ambush often, but mine usually cheapshots or uses garrote. About stealth->shiv, you should remove apply poison with shiv or fan of knifes options. i get better results this way.
      Today I had issues with the internet connection (packet loss) but this is what it did:

      @booboo123 I think it's ok now, but I can't tell for sure because I'm getting alot of errors from the packet loss.


      Casted Hemorrhage.Casted Slice and Dice.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 2, IsDefault: False
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Tricks of the Trade.
      Casted Sprint.
      Casted Redirect.
      Casted Rupture.
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Rupture.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Backstab.
      Casted Dismantle.
      Best: DraeneiRuins, <2285.415, 1391.91, 1196.19>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 3, IsDefault: False
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Kidney Shot.
      Casted Feint.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Recuperate.
      Tried to move to Darkmistress for 45 seconds, blacklisting!
      Casted Stealth.
      Best: FelReaverRuins, <2042.904, 1738.793, 1190.063>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 2, IsDefault: False
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Shadow Dance.
      Casted Premeditation.
      Casted Rupture.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Cheap Shot.
      [FlagReturner] The Horde have captured the flag!
      Best: Flag, <2174.3, 1568.837, 1159.97>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 6, IsDefault: True
      [FlagReturner] The flag has been reset.
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Backstab.
      Best: Flag, <2174.3, 1568.837, 1159.97>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 6, IsDefault: True
      [FlagReturner] Hjuh has taken the flag!
      Casted Tricks of the Trade.
      MoveToTarget: Could not generate path to target: Ghendo, blacklisting!
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Redirect.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Best: Flag, <2174.3, 1568.837, 1159.97>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 4, IsDefault: True
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Blind.
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Feint.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Kick.
      Casted Rupture.
      Best: Flag, <2174.3, 1568.837, 1159.97>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 5, IsDefault: True
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Every Man for Himself.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Shadow Dance.
      Casted Premeditation.
      Casted Redirect.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Sprint.
      Casted Premeditation.
      Casted Garrote.
      Casted Cheap Shot.
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Cloak of Shadows.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Best: Flag, <2174.3, 1568.837, 1159.97>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 4, IsDefault: True
      Casted Feint.
      Casted Kidney Shot.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Evasion.
      Casted Slice and Dice.
      Casted Recuperate.
      I died.
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 4, IsDefault: False
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 3, IsDefault: False
      Tried to move to N?ro for 45 seconds, blacklisting!
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 3, IsDefault: False
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 6, IsDefault: False
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 4, IsDefault: False
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Backstab.
      Casted Tricks of the Trade.
      Casted Shadow Dance.
      Casted Premeditation.
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Cheap Shot.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Redirect.
      Casted Slice and Dice.
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 5, IsDefault: False
      Casted Backstab.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Cloak of Shadows.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Dismantle.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Blind.
      Casted Fan of Knives.
      Casted Smoke Bomb.
      Casted Kidney Shot.
      Casted Slice and Dice.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 4, IsDefault: False
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Tricks of the Trade.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Backstab.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 4, IsDefault: False
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Kidney Shot.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 4, IsDefault: False
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Feint.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Shadow Dance.
      Casted Premeditation.
      Casted Slice and Dice.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Eviscerate.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Backstab.
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 6, IsDefault: False
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Kidney Shot.
      Casted Redirect.
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Backstab.
      Casted Feint.
      Casted Backstab.
      Casted Slice and Dice.
      Sync
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 5, IsDefault: False
      Tried to move to Ghendo for 45 seconds, blacklisting!
      Casted Stealth.
      MoveToTarget: Could not generate path to target: Tankadinn, blacklisting!
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 8, IsDefault: False
      MoveToTarget: Could not generate path to target: Raeynor, blacklisting!
      Best: MageTower, <2285.397, 1726.766, 1188.291>, IsHorde: False, LastPlayerCount: 6, IsDefault: False
      Best is default!
      Queueing up RandomBattleground
      Best is default!
      Waiting 5 seconds before accepting port
      Error downloading tilemap: NorthrendBG/NorthrendBG_v2.tilemap [The open operation did not complete within the allotted timeout of 00:00:30. The time allotted to this operation may have been a portion of a longer timeout.]

      [FlagReturner] The battle for the Strand of the Ancients begins in 1 minute.
      [FlagReturner] The battle for the Strand of the Ancients begins in 30 seconds. Prepare yourselves!
      The open operation did not complete within the allotted timeout of 00:00:30. The time allotted to this operation may have been a portion of a longer timeout.
      Casted Every Man for Himself.
      Casted Shadow Dance.
      Casted Premeditation.
      Casted Cheap Shot.
      Settings SotA Area to: Middle Area
      (Green Gate) State has changed destroyed:True
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Cloak of Shadows.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Vanish.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Rupture.
      I died.
      The open operation did not complete within the allotted timeout of 00:00:30. The time allotted to this operation may have been a portion of a longer timeout.
      Not in game
      Sync
      The open operation did not complete within the allotted timeout of 00:00:29.9990234. The time allotted to this operation may have been a portion of a longer timeout.
      Sync
       
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    6. Sokoo

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      Heey Strix, awesome CC you got here, just a few problems I noticed, it keeps trying to backstab even if he's not behind the target and not using any other skills, it also doesn't stealth when he's eating. Haven't seen it use Evasion yet, not even at 30% HP. Can you look into that? Thanks in advance.
       
    7. Hayt

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      I think you haven't checked the options in the config. You should select Force move behind, deselect use offensive vanish, and not use apply poisons with options for best survivability. True about not sealthing while eating, but the rest of the things mentioned work well. Do you use SNV to constantly update the CC?


      Edit: new cast parse

      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Redirect.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Premeditation.
      Casted Cheap Shot.
      Casted Kick.
      Casted Sprint.
      Casted Tricks of the Trade.
      Casted Slice and Dice.
      Casted Backstab.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Kick.
      Casted Hemorrhage.
      Casted Rupture.
      Casted Shadow Dance.
      Casted Stealth.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Shadowstep.
      Casted Ambush.
      Casted Premeditation.
      Casted Recuperate.
      Casted Cheap Shot.

      Thanks strix! Ambush ftw!
       
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    8. strix

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      If target turns to you during Shadow Dance it will stun it with Cheap Shot to get behind, garrote if it's not yet bleeding and then ambush, as far as i know it's best way.

      Are you running it with low FPS? Behind check is as strict as it's possible, uses 90 degree cone behind target while WoW considers 150 degree cone already being behind, for mine ~20 fps i never noticed it trying to backstab being in front.
      I made it so it doesnt use both Evasion and Combat Readiness at once, only one at a time, maybe this is the cause? It uses Combat Readiness when there are at least 3 enemies targeting you.
       
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      Can comfirm issue for Backstab spamming on PvE mobs with Force behind disabled.

      EDIT: Seems to happen if the CC thinks it should of been able to backstab but forwhat ever reason never, It'll spam Backstab untill (in my situation) casts faint, then it will start on hemo till Kidneyshot, then will try Backstab again.

      Just seems if it misses a backstab it won't stop trying.
       

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      If it is just for PvE, then there is something wrong with HB Api for non-player targets, the only thing that might not work here is:
      Code:
      public bool IsBehind(WoWUnit target)
      {
          return WoWMathHelper.IsBehind(StyxWoW.Me.Location, target.Location, target.Rotation, (float)Math.PI);
      }
      and i use it with this:
      Code:
      CreateCast("Backstab", ret => IsBehind(Me.CurrentTarget) && Me.Inventory.Equipped.MainHand.ItemInfo.WeaponClass == WoWItemWeaponClass.Dagger),
       
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      Works quite well in pve :) Thank you. (already farmed full pvp gear my self) :<
       
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      There is my LazyRogue already and from what i see it's pretty much the same as MutaRaid.
      With this kind of raid CCs, if it's done good for once it doesn't require to be updated till some major rogue changes.
       
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      I think they want a Muti CC with movement and targeting for PVP too, this is why they liked that one.
       
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      V7. Sometimes its ok but few very silly mistakes it makes.
      -trying to shadowstep while being around the corner.
      - targeting paladin while chasing warlock etc.
      - swiching target while its just about to die, but not dead yet.
       
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      1. fixed
      2. if warlock has high enough hp and run out of range it will indeed switch to someone closer
      3. if target is about to die, but is too far (over ~20 yards for 20% hp up to 31 yards for clsoe to 0%) it will pick other, rogue aint ranged char :)
       
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      It's running away from targets.
      When it doesn't run away, all it does it auto-attacks.

      I don't have shadow dance yet. Is that the problem?
      I would think it would just run toward the target and run like normal.
       
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      From general view it should work like that, will see closer into this tomorrow.
      Could you also describe how does it runs away?

      Could you open Apsalar.Combat.cs, find line:
      CreateCast("Fan of Knives", ret => !Me.HasAura("Stealth") &&...

      Place "//" (double slash) at start of each line till you reach "CreateChooseComboGenerator()", CreateChooseComboGenerator should be left as is.

      Or just disable poisoning with Fan of Knives in options.
       
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      I just got shadow Dance and it's starting to attack things.
      I edited the file and unchecked fan of knives, what should I be looking for?

      It doesn't quite "run away", but it continues on a path as if there was no target.
       
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      Nevermind, its running past targets again.
       
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      Guess i cannot locate bug till next guy having it shows up ;(

      Try deleting those double slashes from file and enable FoK and tell me what happens.
       
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