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    Discussion in 'Archives' started by Shaddar, Jan 16, 2012.

    1. Hassliebe

      Hassliebe Member

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      well then all thats left is : awesome work! keep it up!
       
    2. daorigin

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      Tricks of the Trade is often used on tank when you pull and then another dps to boost their damage... how exactly do you Tricks setup cause im confused reading through this.
       
    3. Shaddar

      Shaddar Active Member

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      Tricks of the Trade is being used on the nearest target atm as i have no idea how to make the CC find and target the Tank, else i would've implemented that!
      I've run quite a few heroics/raids and I've yet to see anyone getting aggro by using TotT on them, so its not a concern for me at least! However, if i stumble upon such a code I will implement it.
       
    4. Krizid

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      Would you be able to look over LazyRaider code to find a way to have it TotT? or maybe just have ToTT set to use only when Focus Target is set?
       
    5. Shaddar

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      If you dont like TotT just remove the those lines for now, ill remove TotT in the next update and people can use that CD manually!
       
    6. daorigin

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      just asking ... you will figure it out though always do. my rogue only 82 soo couple more days before i have her raiding hehe
       
    7. Beast

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      and add an assassination rotaion plox lol
       
    8. Zemus213

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      It's nice seeing new rogue CC's! Shaddar has done some nice warrior in the warrior department. As aforementioned, there are a few kinks. If you need ANY information about combat rogues, please PM me! I can give you any and all information you need to make a solid CC! I'm just not that great at writing them yet due to my schedule. Your stat weights listed above are correct, but as I see through posts, rotation issues seem a bit suboptimal.

      As stated, you should never use KS when AR is active. It will energy cap you ending in a DPS Loss overall. They should be used separately, often when <35 Energy.

      a CC not automatically using AR and KS is beneficial imo, because they can be used at key times due to certain mechanics, (i.e. Zon'ozz)

      Also as stated, but very important, Rupture is only a 1% DPS Increase, and even only 1% with a mangle effect on the target. An option to enable / disable this part of rotation will be very beneficial, as often rupture isn't used 100% of the time anyway, such as Yohr'saj, as Rupture will fall off before the said Ooze color may die, etc.

      Anyway, I can't wait to test out the CC and see what it can do! Cheers!
       
    9. l337pally

      l337pally New Member

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      Simple Tricks code i hacked together real fast before raid tonight, worked pretty well. I removed the isboss part cause it was noticable on trash w/o using tricks. Im sure it could be improved/changed to make it better.

       
    10. Shaddar

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      This has been implemented already! :)

      Sadly, people dont have the luxury to use a GUI config with my CC's so its either enabled or disabled. If people dont want to use cooldowns they have to open the Death Shade.cs file and remove the lines themselves.

      I can add a IsBoss() code to Rupture, which prevents it from applying on Ooze colors and what not. An option to enable/disable is as i said above, not possible unless you do this manually in the Death Shade.cs file!:D
       
    11. Shaddar

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      Looks nice! :) But I will not implement a focus macro in my CC! I'll remove TotT so people can use this cooldown manually.
       
    12. panYama

      panYama Community Developer

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      do not know much about rogues, but it certainly needs some tweaking. Singular gives me 23k on dummies, where as this cc gives me 15k dps on dummies / boss in BH25 last night. 15k just doesn't cut it, unfortunate my rogue skills aren't that good to give more defined info so hope others will.
       
    13. Shaddar

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      You only get 15k using this CC on dummies? Do you have item level 300 gear Panyama?
      I did 23k dps with an item level 376 rogue @ Morchok using this CC.
      I dont know what type of gear you have, what your stats are or even if Singular use cooldowns on dummies (because this CC doesnt.)

      I have problems believing that you did 15k with this and 23 with singular. I really do.

      Edit: Im not saying Singular isnt better, it might be. I havent compared them. But yes, Singular use cooldowns on dummies while my CC doesnt.
      I dont min constructive criticism, but if you're going through the trouble to test and compare something as CC's, get your facts straight and do it properly!

      Edit:
      Singular does 20.600 dps with cooldowns
      Death Shade does 18.100 dps without cooldowns
      You be the judge.
      - Shaddar.
       
      Last edited: Jan 18, 2012
    14. panYama

      panYama Community Developer

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      my ilvl on my rogue is 385, so yes he is decently good geared. I reforged properly so that shouldn't be an issue at all.

      Don't get me wrong or go defensive mode here Shaddar as I see you put effort towards your cc's, all I was trying to say is singular does more dps for me whilest I think your should do better then the out of the box verson of HB.
      So hold your horses with going all get your facts straight here;)

      EDIT:

      got vengeance and fear as weapon and a 3 pieces of the tier 13.
       
    15. Shaddar

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      I would of course go defensive mode as its my own work being ripped to pieces when someone doesnt lay down all the facts on the table!
      I've tested this very thoroughly before releasing it. However if you claim that theres a gap of 8.000 DPS, then I'm really sorry. Theres nothing I can do about that as thats not the case with my rogue.
      I have fear and vengeance aswell, but my ilevel is a bit lower.

      I still find it extremely hard to believe the gap is that huge. Even without cooldowns.

      I'm sorry the CC didnt meet your expectations.
       
    16. panYama

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      Clearly you have the wrong idea of where I'm going here so I'll tag along as you update, since I'm trying to help but you see it as ranting at your work. Also yes its your work but you don't have to go so extreme into awnsering, relax man;) there is a difference in trying to point things out then bashing your work which wasn't my goal in the first place. I'll test it in LFR in a bit if my numbers then are different I'll let you know.
       
    17. Shaddar

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      Well, if you had seen some of the PMs i had in the past few days youd act the same!
      Anyway. Posting an update shortly, stay tuned..

      Update:

      REMEMBER TO USE POISONS! as the CC wont do that for you guys :D
      Insant @ main hand - Deadly @ off hand.

      * Removed TotT.
      * Edited IsBoss(), it will now use cooldowns at heroic bosses.
      * Edited Adrenalin Rush and Killing Spree
       
      Last edited: Jan 18, 2012
    18. panYama

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      I can imagine, I get the weirdest pm's sometimes but just got to deal with them I guess.
      any how, my update on the dps on dummy is from 15k as previous said to 22k steady. I'm going to hit the LFR and see how it does there.
       
    19. panYama

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      free now.
       
    20. gesa26

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      did 22k dps on morchok lfr, could have been better, doing ToT for focus would be the best
       

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