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    1. Obliv

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      Singular - Sub Rogue

      Singular Subtlety Rogue
      Works with all bots and supports PvE & PvP.

      How To Install:
      • Update your current Singular SVN. < -- Click for instructions
      • Download the zip.
      • Unzip the files to your CustomClasses\Singular\ folder.
      • It needs to overwrite the old files. If it doesn't overwrite anything, you unzipped it to the wrong place.

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      Trinkets:
      • PvE: Trinkets are used during Shadow Dance. Disable trinket usage in General Settings.
      • PvP: Put your Medallion in Slot 1 and in General Settings use it on CrowdControl/Silence. Tell it to NEVER use Trinket 2 (it's used automatically by the CC).

      Talents
      PvE: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
      PvP: [GUIDE] Subtlety Rogue (PVP) - Forums - World of Warcraft


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      Feedback?
      Use the following template, attach a log, and preferably a reliable source if you're suggesting an improvement:

      • Scenario (PvP/PvE):
      • Current Bot:
      • Level of Rogue:
      • What did it do?:
      • What should it have done?:


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      Known Issues:
      • Shadowstep not being used on pull. Fixed on v09.
      • This HAS NOT been tested on the last 4 bosses in Dragon Soul. I don't know how it will behave with Shadowstep. I'd like to hear feedback if it Shadowsteps you off a cliff, though. I personally run combat manually on the last 4 due to the mechanics.
      • Thrown weapon poison is not being applied. I can't figure out where this is happening, and I'm assuming it's happening on all Singular rogue CCs. Until then manually apply poison to thrown weapon.

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      Changelog:
      v09 - 2/3/12
      • PvP Rotation Changed
      • Added option to disable CS opener
      Code:
       [B]Change Log History[/B]
      v08 - Hotfix - 2/01/12
      [LIST]
      [*]Updated to work with low levels.  WOOPS!
      [/LIST]
      v07 - 2/01/12
      [LIST]
      [*]Works with newest HB
      [*]TRINKETS AND GLOVES YAYYYY!
      [*]PvE:  Trinkets are used during Shadow Dance.  Disable trinket usage in Singular.
      [*]PvP:  Put your Medallion in Slot 1 and in General Settings use it on CrowdControl/Silence.  Tell it to NEVER use Trinket 2.
      [*] DO NOT test this on the dummies, as you'll get terrible results.  It's designed to only use certain abilities when in a party/raid/pvp.  
      [*]What's next?  With the new releases of Singular we're seeing much better logic between Battlegrounds, Instances, and Soloing.  This will make it make soloing much better, and I'll be writing MUCH better logic for those who are using this outside of BGs / Raids.
      [/LIST]
      v06 - 1/29/12
      [LIST]
      [*]Constant Stealth, Shadow Dance, Shadowstep, and Vanish can all be disabled.
      [*]Vanish logic improved.
      [*]Hemo logic improved
      [*]Deadly Throw logic improved
      [*]& more!
      [/LIST]
      v05 - 1/25/2012
      [LIST]
      [*]Lots of Changes
      [*]PvE:  Two New Options!
      [*]1)  Shadow Dance - Enabled it will use SD automatically.  Disabled you must use SD manually, and it will use Shadowstep automatically.
      [*]2)  Cheap Shot - Enable to Cheap Shot while soloing.  Disable to Ambush/Hemo while soloing.
      [*]The rotation for PvE has drastically changed.  Should see VERY big improvements.  Thanks to valiliv for pointing me in the right direction.
      [*]PvP:  Better logic overall.  Need more feedback before I start adding options.  What needs to be changed?
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      v04 - 1/23/2012
      [LIST]
      [*]Fixed PvP Vanish.  Woops.
      [*]Added CoS before Vanish.
      [*]Changed opener for solo so it would not Cheap Shot.
      [/LIST]
      v03 - 1/222/2012
      [LIST]
      [*]Fixed Smoke Bomb
      [*]Fixed Combat Readiness
      [*]Made Cheap Shot our default opening outside of parties/raids.
      [/LIST]
      v02 - 1/22/2011
      [LIST]
      [*]Added Shiv when Crippling Poison on OH if not on enemy player.
      [*]Better use of cooldowns for PvP
      [*]Added Preparation logic.  It's not the best, but it works.
      [*]Added Smoke Bomb, although I can't tell for sure if it's working.  (Not PvP gear... I die too quick)  I need input on defensive cooldowns and "best" usage.
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      v01:  Initial Release
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      Thanks To:
      Handnavi, Smarter, Hawker, CodenameG, Laria, HighVoltz, and everyone else I spammed because I couldn't figure something out. :cool:
       

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    2. sprankton

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      can you set it to ignore player pets and open with cheap shot?
       
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    3. Obliv

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      I'm guessing cheap shot when you're soloing... right?

      I'll work on the ignore pets, but I'm not 100% positive how to do so yet.
       
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      I open with CS in PvP. Sometimes Garrote, but if I had to choose it'd be CS.
       
    5. Obliv

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      It should always open with Cheap Shot if it's not on CD. If CS is on CD, it'll use Ambush.
       
    6. john4

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      Lvl 84 rogue, solo pve
      Any reason it uses gouge/kidney shot so often? I'd prefer no gouges and to use evis instead of KS
       
    7. Obliv

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      john4: Please post a log. It can be only 2-3 mobs, but I'm interested to see why it's deciding to KS. It shouldn't KS unless the target is a player. It will, however, CS to interrupt & as the opener in solo. I haven't tested in much in grinding, so more feedback the better.

      I can easily change it to Evis instead of CS if that makes more sense. It's been ages since I've leveled.
       
    8. Beast

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      what kind of dps are you guys pulling with this in DS
       
    9. Obliv

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      I have yet to do DS with my rogue, as it's my most undergeared character. I just finished my full PvP set.. so I'll be "that guy" in DS this week after resets. The rotation is there, now I'm just interested in the cooldowns.
       
    10. valiliv

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      suggestions for raiding:

      hemo needs to go off every 24 sec since raiders are glyphed for it
      shadowstep needs to go off for every shadowdance
       
    11. Tiberius

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      obliv dont bother doing this, just finish off strix's cc. much better
       
    12. Obliv

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      Thanks for the feedback but at this time I will continue this project. I've looked in to his project and while the cc is great it's more advanced than I can handle with updating it.

      If you have features you'd like to see implemented please see the main post.
       
    13. hazard99

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      is this cc better than the normal singular that cames with hb?
       
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      I don't think the default Singular supports Sub.
       
    15. Obliv

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      Correct. That's why I started work on this. I'll be posting a pretty hefty update tonight.
       
    16. hazard99

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      ok then i wait for the update and try it then.. GOGO man! Thanks a lot!
       
    17. Obliv

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      Off work in six minutes. Will push as fast as possible. Going to run a grind profile for a while for testing.
       
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      almost switched to combat but now I will wait, thanks Obliv! :D
       
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      Depends on the purpose. If you're leveling / grinding.. I'd highly recommend Combat. Combat works like other DPS classes. Sub relies heavily on stealth and positioning (behind behind the target) to do major damage.
       
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      i want this for my new lvl 85 rogue to make pvp.. you think, that your cc is a good choice? =)
       

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