ShamWOW for HB2 - An Enhance/Elemental/Resto + PVP/RaF Healbot by Bobby53

Kikeron, If you have a question or post regarding ShamWOW behavior you observed, be sure to follow the steps linked in the following quote:

That information is needed for any question/issue regarding ShamWOW behavior so I can provide an accurate and timely response. Posts that don't have that info will receive a polite response thanking them for their post and requesting the information so I can respond.
Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

You don't remember how you programmed your Custom Class to react with totems? Thats is the real question I'm asking....

 

rcadams, My apologies mate, but you asked a specific question regarding behavior you saw. So I was willing to put forth the effort to research which combat measures came into play and resulted in the behavior you observed. If that's not what you are looking for then no worries. The response to this latest question is much easier and does not require you to provide a Log. The answer to your terse question is Yes, I remember how I programmed it. So if I were to put the same effort into my response that you have into your question, my post would be finished at this point.
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That's not my style however. I don't know the specifics of your combat environment, settings in effect, which Bot was used, etc. etc. etc. all of which can impact the decisions being made. So rather than me typing a post which thoroughly explains how it decides to drop totems and then you telling me how its not doing that, it would save us all a lot of time and be more accurate for you to post the detail that I uniformly request of all users. That way I can research to determine if something in your usage was impacting it, if there is a bug, or if I simply need to enhance the existing behaviors to account for a situation that they currently do not.
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Thanks for your post and let me know if I can be of further assistance, Bobby53

 

Ok just did trash pulls and two bosses. And recorded what was happening... Seems totally random to me when it drops or doesn't even drop totems. But heck what do I know....

9:01pm 4+ heals are cast after tank has pulled before totems are dropped.
9:03pm 3+ heals are cast after tank has pulled before totems are dropped
9:04pm 3+ heals are cast after tank pulled the boss before totems are dropped
9:08pm 28+ heals are cast after tank pulled, totems never dropped at all.
9:11pm 14+ heals are cast after tank pulled totems never dropped at all.
we wiped because some someone pulled boss, and even then after I was healing totems still never dropped after boss was pulled.
9:16pm 17+ Heals no totem
9:17pm 15+ Heals are cast after tank has pulled before totems are dropped
9:19pm 1+ heals are cast after tank pulled the boss before totems are droppped

P.S. I should note at all times, Tanks, other healers and DPS were all in range of my healing.

 

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Kiarenty, Thanks for taking the time to post. Any time you have an issue or question regarding something you observed in ShamWOW be sure to follow the steps linked in the following quote:

That information is needed for any question/issue regarding ShamWOW behavior so I can provide an accurate and timely response.
Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

HonorBuddy Mode: Grind bot (elemental)
Shamans Location: Hellfire Peninsula (using Kickazz006 levling 58-70 grind profile)
What should have happened (be specific): play smart. target the closer target or change target if getting into combat. pull with flame shock and use lava burst on cooldown.
What did happen (be specific): Can happen it target mobs far away or LoS and ignores that it get aggro by other mobs, the mobs are even hitting it but still want to get to that target. This have killed my shaman many times. (also happening on mobs with same id and faction.)
Does sometimes ignore flame shock and lavaburst or it uses flame shock and lavaburst when target have less then 40% HP left.
Computer time of problem (local time, not realm time): have been having this problem for weeks. today same problem 15:00 CET+1 2012-02-14.

Attached log: View attachment log.zip

The problem "Can happen it target mobs far away or LoS and ignores that it get aggro by other mobs, the mobs are even hitting it but still want to get to that target. This have killed my shaman many times. (also happening on mobs with same id and faction.)" did not happend at the spot I am now. So you might not find a problem about that.

 

arenty, Thanks for the follow up post. I carefully reviewed this submission and here is what I determined:

1) Log File: Unfortunately only a partial log file is provided. The file is missing all the HonorBuddy startup and settings information. Either the file was edited to remove the info or the Logs folder contents were deleted while HonorBuddy was running. Either way, I need the entire file so I know all settings that were in use.

2) System Time: There are six different problems mentioned in the post, but only one time reference. Further, the time given is 15:00:00 but the log file is for the period from 15:42:18 to 15:55:24, so even if I were able to identify which of the six problems the time was intended for, I couldn't associate it with any of the log information detail provided.

Although I cannot use the information provided, I'll respond to each of the issues you identified since you definitely put forth some effort in trying to post your issues for research. Before posting again, double check the section on Local System Time in the FAQ and let me know if you have any questions about what is needed.

3) target the closer target: Grind Bot issue. The pull target is set by the Bot, not the CC. If there are other mobs meeting the faction id of the grind profile in use that are closer, that is a Grind Bot bug that should be submitted in the HonorBuddy Support thread. If the log file were attached and a time reference of when that occurred available I would post it for you, but in this case you can either post it or just include that in your follow up to this.

4) change target if getting into combat: ShamWOW has logic in place that stops the pull and switches targets if the character picks up aggro. If it isn't doing that then it is a bug. Send me a log file with a specific time reference of when you see this happen and I'll get it taken care of.

5) pull with flame shock and use lava burst: If you want to pull with an Instant then change the Pull Type in Configuration. When grinding in an area where you do not have to compete with other players to tag a mob first, the best course of action is to use Lightning Bolt as the Pull spell. This leverages the fact that once it a Lightning Bolt spell completes, it takes time to travel to the target. Ideally you are already a good bit through your second Lightning Bolt cast at the point where the first hits and creates aggro. At that point it will switch to a normal priority sequence using FS, LvB, etc. Again, this is under your control, the current Ranged Pull is designed for maximum damage prior to be hitting by the mob you are attacking. The Fast Pull style of opening with an instant is primarily intended for use in areas where you are competing with other players to tag a mob as your own. You can use it whenever you want, but ultimately you'll take more damage because the mob will aggro to you immediately upon the instant being cast.

6) sometimes ignore flame shock and lavaburst: I haven't seen this so would need a log file with an exact local system time reference that it occurred. I highly recommend using one of the clocks mentioned in the FAQ so you can easily provide HH:MM:SS you observe something happen.

7) it target mobs far away or LoS: Not sure if you are talking about the initial Pull target or at some other point. If you see something like this occur again, just provide the log file needed and time reference and I'll be able to see if it is something that needs to be addressed in ShamWOW or posted forward to HonorBuddy team.

8) uses flame shock and lavaburst when target have less then 40% HP left: I assume you are saying do not want to cause Shock or LvB to be on cooldown if the current target is approaching death. Health Percentage isn't really the best measure for that type of behavior, since if you were fighting an Elite 40% health would be a lot more than a mob that is Current Level - 2. To make Health % a little more reasonable in this case, it would have to be considered only in a non-stressful fight. I'll give this a look and see what I can come up with that doesn't jeopardize ShamWOW's effectiveness in difficult fights.

I know you mentioned at the end of the post did not happend at the spot I am now. So you might not find a problem about that. Unfortunately I can only research issues that detail and data is provided for, so just be sure if this happens again that you note the time it occurred and post the log as described in the FAQ and I'll definitely look into it on your behalf.

Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

as I said. " I have the same problem for weeks." always pull with minimum 2x lightning bolt and run like an idiot. this have forced me to use singular and the pull works amazing there so its the CC not the bot. I will send you full log next time. FYI i do not get any errors when starting.

and I never said "I dont't wanna use lava burst" I just said it's stupid to spam lightning bolts and useing flame shock lavaburst when mobs are at 40% hp or less.

 

bobby53, my man, is there any way to set ur cc on healing to preffer tank.

let me explain you the scenario,

trash mobs appear, one dps start to get aggro (cuz baddie at targe the right mob) tank and dps are getting high dmg, they both are around 30%, stop healing dps, keep the tank alive to avoid wipe.

thanks again for ur hard work ;D

 

arenty, My apologies, but I wasn't asking for your evaluation of whether you believed I needed a full log. I was reminding you politely of what I clearly specified in prior posts, carefully documented in the FAQ, and is a repetition of what I politely reply to other users posting in this thread. I am not sure if it is a Google Translate or personality issue, but I don't want to argue with you over something that I provide and support freely for you to use. All I ask for in return are clearly written posts containing certain information as I so carefully described in the FAQ, and that posters refrain from argumentative, dramatic, and impolite speech. You have only posted a couple times but already lean heavily on "stupid", "not smart", and "idiot" in your writings. I went to a great deal of trouble responding [click here] to a poorly written post and received the above quoted reply in response? I won't be supporting you anymore. Please feel free to use ShamWOW, just refrain from posting about in the ShamWOW thread as I will have future posts that do not meet my criteria deleted. If you do not find that satisfactory, I recommend you switch to using Singular which you mentioned being pleased with. It is well written and has its own thread for you to post in should you become dissatisfied with it. Best of luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

shlord, Thanks for the post! That logic is already built in and has been a part of ShamWOW for about a year and has worked well in the situations I have seen. The current behavior is that if you are setup to run as a Healer, and either the Tank or the Healer (you) drop below 40%, it interrupts the current cast if any, then immediately heals the new target. There are a number of things that will prevent this from occurring:

- Raid Healing Strategy set to something other than Auto or Tanks Only
- No Tank set by Bot
- Tank out of range

Note this occurs in 5-mans also. If you have any further questions about behavior you witnessed, please be certain to follow the steps provided in the ShamWOW Frequently Asked Question [CLICK HERE]. The beginning of that file will contain a dump of all the options and settings in effect so I will know how you are setup to run and can determine if thats an issue. If you can provide the specific time you noticed that a saving tank heal should have been cast along with the log file, even better because I'll be able to look into why it didn't occur for you.

Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

Please help, there is no error labeled on honorbuddy. But it says "queing random battleground" but it never actually ques in game. If I manually que it will enter then bot for me, but it wont que by itself.

 

TheSilentOne, My apologies for your issue. To address the problem you are having, you will want to attach your complet log file (found in the HonorBuddy\LOGS folder) as described in the ShamWOW Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE]. Most likely you are encountering an issue with the Bot you have chosen and should post in the HonorBuddy Support thread, bit I will abosultely review whatever log file you provide. Thanks and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to bobby53 again.

 

Sorry bobby53. I take the words back.

 

HonorBuddy Mode: Grind bot (elemental)

Shamans Location: Terokkar Forest

What should have happened (be specific): Pull with Flame Shock/1x Lightning Bolt > Lava Burst(if Flame Shock is up) / if target does not have Flame Shock up use Flame Shock>

What did happen (be specific): does too many Lightning bolts ignoring Flame shock/Lava burst most of the time.

Here are some time when the problems happend:

14:01 did Elemental Mastery > Lava Burst without Flame Shock.
14:02 did 2x Lightning Bolt > does Flame Shock when mob is at 40%~ then Lava Burst.
14:03 did Elemental Mastery > Lava Burst without Flame Shock.
14:06 did only Lightning Bolts to kill a mob. while Flame Shock and Lava Burst had no cd.
14:07 did 3x Lightning Bolts > Flame Shock at very low health (Flame Shock and Lava Burst CD was ready at this point)
14:09 did 3x Lightning Bolts > Flame Shock at very low health (Flame Shock and Lava Burst CD was ready at this point)
14:14 did 3x Lightning Bolts > Flame Shock at very low health (Flame Shock and Lava Burst CD was ready at this point)
14:15 did 1x Lightning Bolt > Flame Shock > 1x Lightning Bolt > Lava burst when the mob was very low.

I could have posted more of this but did not feel necessary to do so.

Attached log: View attachment 2012-02-16_13_59 3796 Log.zip


I'm sorry again for what I said earlier. Wont happend again

 

arenty, I already answered this question -- see the quote referenced above. Your Pull Type is set to:

so you are getting the behavior you are setup for. Click Class Config, Grinding tab, and change the Pull Type to Fast if you want to force that behavior instead.

 

thank you! Will test it soon and see if it works