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  • [BotBase] RaidBot - 30fps CC Execution

    Discussion in 'Botbases' started by Apoc, Feb 19, 2012.

    1. tonari

      tonari New Member

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      The raidbot lags at mostly any pc from a mid range one to high end one with some custom classes, it just the problem that some of them are not made for it.
      Without a complete redo of either bot base or the cc there is no help.

      Edit: i did try it on similar rig like yours *****le or even a tiny bit better and there is lag on certain fights so there is no problem with your computer.
       
    2. johngeorge

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      Get more ram I run winows 7 with 16 gig of ram windows 7 is a fricking memory whore.
       
    3. white_boy8869

      white_boy8869 Member

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      This is truth. Thank you for confirmation.

      The lag is cc based.

      I literally run a similar rig to previous poster
      AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 965
      Asus HD Radeon 6990
      12 gigs of ram
      Windows 7 ultimate 64

      (*****le 4 gigs IS bare minimum for any 7 pc bro. Spend 50 bucks and get a stick or two.)

      I do not lag whatsoever in wow. I ONLY lag on CERTAIN boss fights or in certain battles with ONLY certain CCs.
      Fact is there just isn't enough cc's for ever class compatible with raidbot.
      Lazy raider is good, but I feel raidbot is more fluid.
       
    4. megabbyte

      megabbyte Banned

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      And using lazyraider?
       
    5. dezaint

      dezaint New Member

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      Raidbot is insane, just like many others I got 5-8k more DPS then with combat bot / lazy. That's awesome!
      However I do not experience any lag as some others do. Havent tried that many bossfights, though. Thanks alot!
       
    6. Apoc

      Apoc Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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      The lag is due to CCs using Thread.Sleep(someValue) or StyxWoW.SleepForLagDuration(). Both of these are not recommended at all to be used. (We use them internally in HB to ensure certain bugs don't occur, but we do so in very key spots that won't cause issues.)

      Most CCs will sleep after changing targets, or any "I need to wait for some response from the server" type thing. This is generally fine for CombatBot, but not for RaidBot. RaidBot enforces HB to keep a frame "locked" (eg; stop the game from executing until something is finished doing what it needs to) to pick up the extra performance. If you're sleeping HB while WoW is locked, there's obviously going to be lag.

      Lastly; if you're running on a seriously old PC, this isn't something for you to use. It does increase the frequency of everything inside the bot, so it will eat more CPU. But thats the point. The faster it runs, the better your DPS overall.
       
    7. white_boy8869

      white_boy8869 Member

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      This makes sense. I wish there were more cc's tailored to this raidbot for all classes.

      Also I may be imagining things, but I think I've noticed during a boss fight if I get a laggy cc on one of my classes if I stop and restart the bit it cuts down if not completely removes the lag.
      Hard to say since I have every class and I run all through lfr/ds10 every week
       
    8. Vimse2009

      Vimse2009 New Member

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      Seems your ram is a bit low you could also clock your proccesor abit if you have the cooler and abit of patience i dont have the big experience with amd proccesors so you need to look into this yourself but i dont see why that setup should lag in wow the gfx is a really good card for the money , how long is it since u made a fresh clean windows install , did you maybe fill up your harddrive to much or alot of other programs runing at the same time? Also nod32 is a really good anti virus for gaming .
       
    9. Soeski

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      Can anyone explain in short what the 30FPS/60FPS, Frame Lock and so on exactly mean/do? My pc always has 60fps and I use Vertical Sync as well. Only in 25-man RAIDS at certain fases it drops a sec to somewhat lower values, but mostly stays steady @ 60.
      I do understand the principle of 30/60fps, but not the exact usage. Is it wise for me to use this @ 30fps, while my pc always has 60fps for example?
      Hpw to get the most out of this is more what I want to know ;)
      Having said that; Raidbot with Singular gives me the highest DPS (8300) right now on a 85 normal dummy (I'm 84).
      CLU is not so good (6500), and Avenger comes close with 7800. Seems nice!
       
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    10. Bigbadwolf

      Bigbadwolf New Member

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      I dont really get that 30fps thingy myself. but from what ive understand its the cc that gets executed at as close to 30fps as possible making your cc alot faster while executing spells. hence increasing your dps in forexample raids.

      What i understand plugins slow down the "reaction" of the ccs. Making Raidbot run without plugins makes this alot faster.

      Correct me if im wrong :) i would like to know aswell :p
       
    11. wulfen

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      basically it forces HB to run through your CC 30/60 times per second, while literally stopping Wow from rendering a new frame until HB has completed its pass

      and because HB is running at 30ticks per second and each tick locks the wow frame... your FPS also winds up being about 30
       
      Last edited: Apr 25, 2012
    12. HB3717X64

      HB3717X64 New Member

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      I must be completely blind but I cannot see a *.cs file to download =(
       
    13. fortune

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      mhm

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      nuff said
       
    14. HB3717X64

      HB3717X64 New Member

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      Maybe you missed the quote in my post where it was stated that there is a .cs file available, and the fact that the person quoted is not the person you are quoting?
       
    15. fortune

      fortune New Member

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      you can easily create a cs file -> notepad -> copy paste the code -> save as bla.cs = win
       
    16. HB3717X64

      HB3717X64 New Member

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      The original code is not the same as the code I was asking about.
       
    17. Apoc

      Apoc Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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      RaidBot forces HB to execute at 30fps (roughly 10-15x faster than any human can possibly react) The fact that you can normally get 60fps really has no bearing on this. (So long as your FPS isn't dropping below 10ish)

      Some plugins do things in the "Pulse()" function, which is run every time HB "ticks" its logic tree. RaidBot turns plugins off while it runs, to ensure nothing but your combat logic (and some select other things) are run, to ensure the highest performance. (If you really need plugins running while in a raid, I think you need to re-think your plugins.)

      However, with all that said, LazyRaider recently implemented all the stuff RaidBot does. If you still want the "no frills" performance of RaidBot, feel free to keep using it. Otherwise, LazyRaider does basically the same thing!
       
    18. Vimse2009

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      Wich healing cc?s are you using for this bot for it to work propper i tryed it of in a dungeon with the pally cc ultimate pala healer , and the tank died due to sudenly it took a 2-3 sec break or somthing from casting no lag or anything not working ? or was that just a glitch ?
       
    19. Deimos

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      Lazyraider is still slower than raidbot in terms of using abilities for me. Might be bad pc but I go from 27k to 38ishk when switching to raidbot from lazyraider.
       
    20. Piterek

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      Try to use Holy Cow, I'm using that cc from a long time and its just perfect :)

      For me Lazyraider is still slower aswell
       

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