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  • ShamWOW for HB2 - An Enhance/Elemental/Resto + PVP/RaF Healbot by Bobby53

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    1. bobby53

      bobby53 New Member

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      pnrxt, Thanks for the post, but the description does not match the results of my testing. The items you mentioned have been supported in ShamWOW for years. Please follow the steps FAQ #1 of ShamWOW Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE] for posting regarding any issue, question, or criticism that you would like me to research on your behalf. The handling for Earth Shield in PVP is slightly different from what you described, so suggest you read the FAQ on Shield Twisting and how it pertains to Restos in PVP. Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53
       
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    2. pepsiwarrior

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      Hi bobby, My shamwow, wont recognise that i'm in arena? what am i doing wrong?, I'm using LazyRaider, but when i'm in arena, it wount use the specific commands that i want it to, such as not using a trinket etc. any info would be great.
       
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      is fake casting in this class like tuanha paladin cc?
       
    4. bobby53

      bobby53 New Member

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      pepsiwarrior, Thanks for the post, but the description does not match the results of my testing. Please follow the steps FAQ #1 of ShamWOW Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE] for posting the details about your issue if you would like me to research on your behalf. Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53
       
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      Mario27 Banned

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      the new beta version doesend load because normally u have 2 files the shamwow folder and the config folder it says when i instal your files from beta cant find enebler plugin or something should i just use the version 21?
       
    6. zeldrak

      zeldrak Well-Known Member

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      Unless I misread something on the first page, where his OP is, there is no new BETA. The BETA he has posted is 4.3.06, and his most current release is 4.5.21. I could be wrong, but I went from post #1 down to post #40 and didn't see anything about a new BETA. I did read that when he does offer a new BETA, then post #4 will be updated, or recycled, with the new information. Post #4 was last updated on 08/06/2011, or maybe it was 06/08/2011. Either way, the BETA post is way older than the most current public release. I'd say use 4.5.21 and get rid of the BETA.
       
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      i know its a beta P also does it cast grounding totem for mage sheep?
       
    8. bobby53

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      There is no new Beta. The first line from the Beta Download page is:
      To make sure nobody tries to use the file attached it has been removed from post #4. All users should be using ShamWOW 4.5.21 presently.

      Thanks for the post, Bobby53
       
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    9. Keptoknight

      Keptoknight New Member

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      Hi there's a small issue here the bot keeps casting Searing totem every time it enters in combat...

      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Healing Stream Totem
      *Lightning Bolt
      *Healing Stream Totem
      *Flame Shock
      *Auto-Attack
      *Lightning Bolt

      Here is a log:

      Update # 2

      Moving to Type: QuestTurnIn
      >>> PULL: Sentinel Ambusher.28FA[26] at 16.5 yds
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Healing Stream Totem
      *Lightning Bolt
      *Healing Stream Totem
      *Flame Shock
      *Auto-Attack
      *Blood Fury
      Blood Fury: just broke out a can of whoop a$$!
      *Lightning Bolt
      *Lightning Bolt
      *Earth Shock
      >>> ADD: Sentinel Ambusher.305C[26] at 3.7 yds
      *Auto-Attack
      *Lightning Bolt
      *Lightning Shield
      ! Kill #6 at 16651 xp per hour fighting at x=1718.515,y=-425.0868,z=101.1068
      Moving to Type: Loot, Name: Sentinel Ambusher
      Looting Sentinel Ambusher Guid:0xF130A37E0015305C
      Moving to Type: Loot, Name: Sentinel Ambusher
      Looting Sentinel Ambusher Guid:0xF130A37E001528FA
      Mounting: Dire Wolf
      Moving to Type: QuestTurnIn
      >>> PULL: Sentinel Ambusher.305B[26] at 15.4 yds
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Searing Totem
      *Healing Stream Totem
      *Lightning Bolt


      Alright this is getting a bit out of hand >.>

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    10. bobby53

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      Keptoknight, Thanks for the post and the log file. Pasting log sections can get out of hand, especially for ShamWOW which has verbose log output by default. The best way post all the detail needed for me to research on your behalf is described in FAQ #1 titled "1. How to post a question, issue, or constructive criticism..." in the ShamWOW Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE]. You can usually find this resource linked in my responses to most users or you can go directly to the second post in this thread.

      The problem you encountered is due to using an extremely old version of ShamWOW:
      As a point of reference, ShamWOW 4.3.15 was released over a year ago and there have been 29 releases since, some which included major revisions. Until recently, ShamWOW 4.3.15 was contained in the HonorBuddy install. Anytime you installed or upgraded your version of HB, it would overwrite any existing ShamWOW installation with version 4.3.15. That has been removed from the HB package now so there should be no version issues going forward.

      To fix this issue, download the most recent version of ShamWOW [CLICK HERE] and extract ALL contents of the .ZIP. For installation instructions see the FAQ linked above or the INSTALL.TXT bundled in the .ZIP.

      Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53
       
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      Take a look at that. I was using an old version of Shamwow and still worked well. It was just casting that totem a lot. That's how good this CC is ^.^
       
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      is grounding totem also working or could u add that? for getting me out of things in arena like mage sheep etc.
       
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      Just a quick testimonial on how amazing this CC is. So I was running HoT randoms with my Resto Shaman (with LazyRaider!) and, after killing Benedictus, the party leader said to me "Nice heals!" and "You're a great healer." Then he went on to basically recruit me to his raid team's alt runs and I accepted his guild invite, which was pretty awesome. All because of ShamWoW.

      Thank you Bobby53!
       
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      See prior response to you [CLICK HERE]. Suggest that you try ShamWOW in Battlegrounds (to answer questions about behavior in Arena) and in LFR (for Raid behavior.) If you have already tried ShamWOW and have a question, follow the steps in FAQ linked in prior response referenced earlier. Thanks for the post, Bobby53
       
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      Too funny! Thanks for the follow up Kepto, glad to know it is working well for you. +rep and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53
       
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      Bat, There should be a new version coming out in the next couple weeks to boost your HPS a little more and give more control over Single Heal vs AoE. Thanks for taking the time to post on your success! +rep and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53
       
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      Hey Bobby --

      I just have a question, so no need for logs or anything, because I'm not reporting any bugs or use problems. ShamWoW is working great. I just wanted to get some information from you about what ShamWoW considers to be "low level" mobs. I see the drop-down for "Farming Low Level Mobs" and "Normal". I've been using the low level setting for everything that was pre-Cataclysm because my shaman can one-shot 99% of everything that is WotLK and lower. I know the difference is that it doesn't drop totems on low level farming, and it only uses lightning bolt and flame shock, but what I'd like to know is what does it consider "low level"? Are there any specifics? Right now I'm using a skinning profile and it's in Uldum, so I set everything back to "Normal" and "Auto" for the grinding /settings. I only did that because it takes more than one LB and FS to kill the Uldum crocs. Could it still be set to the low level farming while in Uldum? Should I even do that? I'm just trying to appear as normal as a regular player would. My shaman is 378/380 ilevel, and I'm using my Ele spec, instead of my Resto spec.

      Oh, and I do have a request from you, if you mind doing it that is? I saw how you posted some items for leveling as Enhanced, and the main thing I was interested in was the AE2 file you posted for Enh leveling. Could you do that for a Resto/Ele spec? If it's too much of a bother, and a pain, I understand. Don't worry about it. But, if you can whip those two up with minimal trouble, and you feel like doing it, that would be absolutely great.

      All in all, thanks a ton for your work Bobby, because as I said before without it my shaman would have been deleted a long time ago.


      I meant to comment on this in this post, but I forgot, so I had to go back and edit it in. You say you're improving on AoE vs Single Target healing? I've done several DS runs as a rDPS (SV Hunter), and I know that healing DS is a pretty tedious raid to heal. I've listened and watched the healers (through Vent and in-game), and I have to say they're constantly busy. I've seen them OOM quite often, and with two shamans already healing, they alternate their mana regen totem CDs. With these improvements you're making, I already saw that you said HPS will increase, but will it also take into consideration mana conservation vs throughput? Will the changes also use the T12/13 set bonuses for healing? Right now I only have the T12 2-piece bonus, which uses Riptide for mana regen (if memory serves me correctly). I was thinking about putting my shaman in the alt runs as a healer. I don't know much at all about DS healing, but I know there are certain things that need to be dispelled, certain phases that need to be soaked and picked up as a healer, etc. Does ShamWoW have DS logic like some of the other CCs? I'm extremely interested in all of this because DS is honestly the first raid I've ever done in all of my time playing WoW, which is about six years. I've never raided before, and I find it quite fun, but since discovering HB I've forgotten how to play the game completely, except for movement, lol.
       
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      Hello good day bobby not sure if i'm posting this in the right tread so if i'm not i appollogize. question I have is how long after HB goes live after MoP will shamwow be up and running. If you don't have a time frame thats perfectly fine i'm just curious... Ohh and hands down greatest CC of all time you have spoiled me oh so much. as now playing my sham manually and its just not the same so i went right back to shamwow, I mean why not. oh and on a personal note are you a programmer by trade or softwere developer i'm just curious.
       
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      zeldrak, Thanks for the post and good question! ShamWOW has support for identifying stressful situations, but there is no logic to identify a mob as trivial. The Combat Style=Farming Low Level Mobs provides a mechanism to allow users to work around it. In reviewing the code to answer your question about whether you should use that setting in Uldum, I would have to say No. I didn't test, but it appears there is a bug. The LB/FS casts you mentioned are occurring during the PULL. Since they die quickly, the COMBAT behavior isn't needed. However, if they survive and the Combat behavior is invoked, it appears an Elemental will only cast Thunderstorm or Chain Lightning and only if multiple mobs are present.

      If you are are trying to reduce actions taken when farming, you can set each Totem selected for Questing/Grinding to None. That would skip the totem set portion of combat, but retain the rest of the full rotation. I'll fix the farming issue mentioned in the next release.

      The settings for Enhancement caused the most questionable gear selections as described in the post you referenced and others on the forum. The Restoration weights are fine and should work with no problem (at least with regards to choosing +agi gear rather than +int gear.) The Elemental weight appear to have an issue, but it is not one that will occur as frequently as the Enhancement problem. With the default Elemental gear weightings in HB 2.0.0.5965 you can get in a situation where an item with +agi/+cri/+hit will be valued over a +int/+spi item because +hit is so highly weighted (100), +cri (40) is moderately weighted, and spirit (0) is so lowly rated. However the Elemental Leveling build recommended has points in Elemental Precision, at which point Spirit should have the same rating as Hit. It actually should have a higher value to you personally since you can reuse a Spirit item when you switch between Elemental and Resto, where as a pure +Hit item has no benefit for Resto. For AutoEquip to work accurately for Elemental Shaman, the defaults should include Spirit weighted the same or higher than Hit and then the actual weight used scaled based upon the number of talent points in Elemental Precision. Lacking that, it seems the best thing would be to provide an Elemental Shaman weight set good for leveling only. It would be useful only while leveling (actually before reaching the Hit Cap) because since at that point the weighting is no longer valid. Unfortunately you don't have the ability to select weights to use in the same way you do talent builds, so users would need to manage this either by copying individual files or having an HB installation setup for leveling and another setup for end game. I have attached my suggested stat weights to this post. A link is provided in the file so you can see the gear selection priority in action for Leather Chests an Ele would use prior to hitting Level 40.

      Basically it should react a little faster, which should result in higher HPS or better Mana Conservation depending upon the healing %'s you have shown. ShamWOW already has mana management via %'s you can set for abilities and cancelling non-AoE spell casts that would result in. AoE spellcasts are allowed to continue even if the initial target will be overhealed because of the jump/splash that occurs to nearby raid members still being useful. ShamWOW also already detects and reacts to the T12 2PC (rolls Riptide) and T13 4PC (uses Spirit Link as personal Bloodlust) Resto Bonuses if you have the gear equipped. You can easily run LFR now as Resto without having to know any strategy other than the stuff you already know from running as Elem, but your numbers will be lower. Your numbers will benefit from knowing the strats (use the Crystals to buff healing in Ultraxion fight, avoid getting stunned in Warmaster Blackhorn fight, etc.) You will go OOM if you don't have decent raid gear, in the same way you go OOM healing Heroics at the point you are trying to farm gear from them. Just make sure to take advantage of a Telluric Currents build and you should have no problem unless the other healers in LFR are also undergeared. To run in Normal or Heroic DS however, you will benefit from knowing the healing strats and take advantage of points where you need to Pause LazyRaider so you can heal manually to support your groups strategy. The next release will have the ability to switch between the default and an alternate healing profile based upon a keypress.

      As for DS specific logic, there is None in ShamWOW. Since there is no AFK raiding in HB presently, I prefer to not implement encounter specific behaviors and focus more on ways to allow the user to handle within the flow of ShamWOW usage.

      Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, -Bobby53
       

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      jggaall99, Thanks for the post! Sorry, but I don't usually give estimates on when stuff will be ready. I added FAQ #20 to the ShamWOW Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE] for info on ShamWOW in MoP. That's really the only info available on it until HonorBuddy for MoP is released. Thanks again for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53
       
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