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    • CLU (Codified Likeness Utility) - (Pt. 2)

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    1. Clubwar

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      I have the same problem today...

      Raid 25, 2 magues in my raid about me. They 70k-65 all time in all boss, me only 40-45k whit bot.

      What is your item level? 470
      Is your gear properly gemmed, enchanted and otherwise optimized? Yes all
      Which bot base are you using? CLU + Lazyraider

      Other mages in my guild are 468 frost and 469 fire and they have too more dps that me :(

      Please, any can say me how i need configre CLU mage fire to have same damage?
       
      Clubwar, Oct 15, 2012
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    2. froggystyle

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      Fire Mage

      463 ilvl properly gemed 25man enchanted and reforged .

      only did around 42k dps as fire on 4 kings

      if you wanna see wol or my armoury just pm me i'll be glad 2 help test any time i can
       

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    3. Clubwar

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      Ok, all mage fire have the same problem, very low damage, whit high gear( all people have more that 460), CLU mage fire need rework
       
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    4. Condemned

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      I will look into the issues you guys are experiencing. Some skills may be out of order or there may be a more optimal configuration out there. If i have additional questions I will post them here.


      I ran 5 tests with 2 different bot bases for 4 million damage each on the level 93 training dummy. I will also test each in an LFR scenario and report back but I wanted to at least get some data out there.

      Character Info:

      Item Level: 467
      Spec: Fire
      Gear Optimized: Gemmed and enchanted according to askmrrobot.com
      Buffs: Int Flask & +275 Int Food


      Bot Base 1:

      Lazy Raider @30FPS

      Total Damage Per Session: 4.00 Million
      Average DPS: 35,388
      Average Missed Pyro Procs: 1.8

      Bot Base 2:

      Tyrael @ 30FPS

      Total Damage Per Session: 4.00 Million
      Average DPS: 48,452
      Average Missed Pyro Procs: 0.4

      I'll need to get some more information but it may have something to do with LazyRaider and CLU. Stay tuned for more and please take this with a grain of salt. Five tests each could still be pretty heavily skewed by RNG.
       
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      Condemned, Oct 15, 2012
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    5. jamster

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      Any news on the problem with retpally stopping rotation? Log posted 2pages bk thx
       
      jamster, Oct 15, 2012
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    6. Clubwar

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      Very low damage, in LFR whit my mage and play whiout bot i have 70-75k always top 1 or 2
       
      Clubwar, Oct 15, 2012
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    7. Condemned

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      The dummys are not a raid environment. However they do provide equal ground for everyone to test on with self buffs. Dps will be quite low because of this.
       
      Condemned, Oct 15, 2012
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    8. Clubwar

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      What Bot is Tyrael bot?? I cant find in forum :(
       
      Clubwar, Oct 15, 2012
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    9. Mirabis

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      It's still in testing stages I'm guessing.

      I've been using it a few times lately, my suggestion though is to wait upon release if it'll be released.

      Otherwise , completely disregard everything u know about it.
       
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      Mirabis, Oct 15, 2012
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    10. xsilverdicex

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      Any news on the firemage fix?

      The basic priority that i follow to get 70k+ dps is:

      on pull:
      1.) Cast Nether Tempest (ALWAYS refresh this right before it's last tick)
      2.) Cast Living Bomb (keep 100% uptime refreshing as it drops or directly before last tick)
      3.) Cast Frost Bomb Oon Cooldown!
      4.) Cast Pyroblast only when Pyroblast! procs.
      5.) Cast Inferno Blast when Heating Up procs (this needs to be 100% you can not miss this! huge dps loss if you do.)
      6.) Finally with nothing else to do Fireball is used as your filler move. (spam move? lol)

      If you can make the bot do this, it will pawn. Currently watching mine with bot, it miss's Heating Up proc's, and sometime's continue's to cast 3 or more fireball's while it has a Pyroblast! proc. This could be the problem.

      Extra:
      Combustion may be a little harder to code it. ( i prefer to use this myself) i think though the best way for the bot would be cast directly after a Pyroblast crit. (not sure if CLU can detect Crit's?)
      Mirror Image Best way for bot would be on Cooldown on boss's.

      AOE:

      1.)is simple. Cast Living Bomb and then spread it to nearby mobs using Inferno Blast Should also be using Glyph of Fire Blast.

      2.) If it is a huge amount of mobs 5+ Flamestrike and Arcane Explosion spam. Ofcourse this require's the user to stand in the mobs. Myabe you could do a check with the CC for aoe "If 5+ mobs and in Arcane Explosion range use AOE option 2.) If not in range use option 1 still.
       
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      xsilverdicex, Oct 15, 2012
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    11. Condemned

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      Tyrael
       
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    12. vibrator

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      This is correct but also it uses alter time incorrectly when it does use it better off for the player to use himself along with combustion i can time myself to get 3 hotstreack procs off in a chain using my alter time myself leaving a 60+ignite stack to combust on if you implement it to use those please put something in to disable
       
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    13. vibrator

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      This is correct but also it uses alter time incorrectly when it does use it better off for the player to use himself along with combustion i can time myself to get 3 hotstreack procs off in a chain using my alter time myself leaving a 60+ignite stack to combust on if you implement it to use those please put something in to disable
       
      vibrator, Oct 15, 2012
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    14. Condemned

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      What you are asking for is basically what the rotation has been written to do. I would take a guess that it may take some optimizing in either the rotation, the bot bases or in hb itself in order to achieve flawless execution. I have several /stopcasting macros that I will use to ensure that any pyroblast procs that are not being used i can use by hand. Similar macros are in place for mirror image, combustion etc. I know everyone really wants the rotation to do all of the work but if you want to crush the meters, it looks like you are going to have to help it out a bit.
       
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    15. Condemned

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      This Fire.cs file has Alter Time commented out and will not use it. You can overwrite your existing Fire.cs file inside your routines\clu\clu\classes\mage\ folder and keep in mind any svn updates will overwrite it.

      View attachment Fire.cs
       
      Condemned, Oct 15, 2012
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    16. xsilverdicex

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      it must be CLU that;s broken other cc's outside of clu can detect procs and use them 100%
       
      xsilverdicex, Oct 15, 2012
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    17. Condemned

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      Which cc's have you used that are achieving your desired results? I can take a look at that code and attempt to apply it to the fire mage rotation in clu.
       
      Condemned, Oct 15, 2012
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    18. xsilverdicex

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      tunha's monk cc i was refering too, detects both blackout and tigerpalm proc perfectly
       
      xsilverdicex, Oct 15, 2012
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    19. Condemned

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      ty for then quick reply. Ill see what I can do with it.
       
      Condemned, Oct 16, 2012
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    20. wulf

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      Guys, thanks for all the input on the mage.. I'm not ignoring you, I have been unwell the last few days and have a heap of work to catch up on.. don't expect anything for the next few days from me until I can catch up on things in RL.

      Also...I haven't even had time to get one of my toons to 90 yet...this new job is taking up allot of my time.

      wulf.
       
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      wulf, Oct 16, 2012
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