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    Discussion in 'Archives' started by attilio76, Nov 22, 2012.

    1. Clubwar

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      Sweet words i try tomorrow
       
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      this give please is the one that CLU creators are developing where can i find it k thankie

      Attilio66 If i get you the spell names buffs and a proper rotation do you think you could build a good fire CC? I tried to edit CLU to work how i want it to but i cant get it to not use Alter Time on CD unless i disable all cd's plus it doesnt use RoP talent like i would like.
       
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      anyway to add in Invocation on cd for the dmg buff to max dps?


      im also having a targeting issue it body pulls alot of mobs running kicks 85-90 questing it has not done that with my other toons any idea as to why it may be happening?
       
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    4. attilio76

      attilio76 Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      sure post it!
      i need little time to fix something and upgrade shaman cc.
      i'm using for my cc noxxic and icy veins site (icy veins most)
       
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      attilio76 Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      @kalanikila
      ok i will add asap. Stay tuned
       
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      Time to try new changes in frost
       
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      I DONT NEED A GUI if you can make it do these things with out the need of settings.
      BASICS
      Buffs Molten Armor/Arcane Intellect seriously not important people can buff themselves imo
      Combat Buffs and Talents
      -T1 Talents only 2 viable both are preferrnce based Scorch Scorch - Spell - World of Warcraft and Presence of Mind Presence of Mind - Spell - World of Warcraft I prefer the use of scorch.
      -T6 Talents
      -Evocation with invocation talent Invocation - Spell - World of Warcraft needs a do not interrupt channel on it evocating for 3-4 seconds and then interrupting it to use a trinket or cast a bomb is a waste because you have to complete the spell channel to gain the buff which means another 5 seconds of channeling when evocate comes back off cd thats almost 11 seconds of no dps time.
      -Rune of Power you already know how this works, cast flawlessly in your arcane CC double casts it in your frost CC needs to be fixed to do like your arcane this i believe should be the new T6 talent since the CD has been removed.
      -Incanters Ward Incanter's Ward - Spell - World of Warcraft this should be left upto the player to use since its best applied when expected damage is incoming and can break the shield other than that should use the passive benefit (i.e. Using it right before Garalon Crushes is a good time it always breaks)
      Self healing Defensive CD's
      -Healthstone below 30% hp? sounds good Ice barrier on CD Ice Block>only use if Cauterize talent chosen and me.hasdebuff Cauterize - Spell - World of Warcraft
      Cool Downs
      Engineering gloves use on CD imo Trinkets if on use trinket on bosses only? Combustion controlled by the player for best results
      the big one is Alter Time Alter Time - Spell - World of Warcraft This can make or break because of the ability to use it to chain pyroblasts im going to post 2 ways it can be used depending on talents.
      This is for PoM talent use Scenario 1: Alter Time and PoM
      - Fireball until you get a crit.
      - Inferno Blast queue that crit into a Pyroblast Buff.
      - Make sure Pyromaniac debuff (via mage bomb) is up.
      - Cast Presence of Mind
      - Cast Alter Time now you should have a Hot Streak buff PoM buff and Alter Time buff
      - At this point fire 1 pyroblast (using up the Hot streak buff), you will still have a PoM buff, and 6 seconds till Alter Time ends.
      - Hit Pyroblast - this will use up the PoM buff (sending out pyroblast 2)
      - Cast Alter Time a second time - This will preemptively end your Alter Time countdown and reset you to: Pyroblast buff and PoM buff and then it will fire
      insta-pyroblast 3, consuming Pyroblast buff.
      - Hit Pyroblast for insta pyroblast 4 (consuming PoM buff for the 2nd time).
      - Hit Combust this can be done every 3 minutes for a massive ignite and it can be used every 1.5 minutes for a double Pyroblast with pom/combustion for a slightly smaller one Alter Time has a 3 min CD combustion and Pom both have 1.5 minute CD's
      Method 2
      - Almost the same thing except you dont have PoM talent you have Scorch so it works the same way minus the PoM if more detail is added let me know.
      Edit Here : non PoM usage order Fireball till heating up proc>inferno blast to generate Hot Streak>Alter Time 1> make sure pyromaniac is up from mage bomb>
      cast pyroblast>cast Alter time 2> cast Pyroblast also there is a way for you to make sure you have certain buffs like RoP or invocation buff before it uses alter time would be awesome.


      1.1 Filler Rotation:
      1.1.a) Keep your mage bomb up (Frost Bomb= should be kept on CD, Nether Tempest=Refresh when below 2 seconds remaining, Living Bomb=reapply@1 sec or last tick bomb will still explode at that point.) Bomb uptime is very important. The only thing that should out weigh this imo is Heating Up proc which gives you your hot streak proc(more on this on down).
      1.1.b) Keep Pyroblast dot up (yes, that means if you go 18 seconds without a crit, you hard cast Pyroblast for the dot)<<-- I open with a Pyroblast on 2 seconds of pull timer so this seems unnesscary as i always have a pyroblast dot up.
      1.1.c) Pyroblast when you have the insta-cast buff. The buff name is Hot Streak and it is gained by the player.
      1.1.d) Queue Fireball into Fireball until you get a "Heating Up" proc. DO NOT CANCEL YOUR FIREBALL WHEN THIS PROCS. Instead, spam queue Inferno Blast to force the "Pyroblast" buff. Heating Up is a buff gained by the mage here is how it works. Anytime you crit with a fire spell you gain heating up when this happens you use Inferno Blast(it is a 100% crit giving you 2 crits back to back causing a controlled Hot Streak proc) the idea is to make fire mage a little less RNG with that ability. A Heating Up proc is the only thing that should be cast over refreshing/reapplying a mage bomb so that the proc is not lost so i.e( Fireball>Fireball<Living Bomb Explodes or has 1 second left and gain Heating Up proc<> Inferno Blast takes Priority over Living Bomb to generate the Pyroblast Proc< now at this point you gained Hot Streak (free pyroblast! instant cast) Apply the bomb before using the Hot Streak they are both instant cast so you use only 2 seconds basically both GCD's)

      MoP Fire Mage Guide
      preferred no targeting Flame Strike only if 6+ mobs also
      I went outside to smoke drink a cup of coffee and I lost my entire thought process /sigh
      Any other Fire Mages see anything I missed? please comment but link your sources for me and Attilio66
       
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      Really good changes in frost, really good, i may say that is perfect, but now xD, only have 1 error :

      1 - Many times, the bomb is off and caster prefer other frostbol that use bomb frost, but all rest are perfect.

      Really good job attilio
       
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      How did you test frost servers are still down for maintaince for me
       
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      Europe servers Spanish are all live ;)
       
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      makes sense I cant see EU realm status list just like i cant see EU players on armory
       
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      Where i can try pure rotation?
       
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      Anybody have problem whit last update?? In pulls of elegon when i have PROC up ! no use, but in dummy boss yes..

      Anybody have this problem?

      Edit : Ok this CC in Elegon no working, last for dps in my raid...i change to CLU
       
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      attilio76 Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      how more dps in frost now with last update?
       
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      In dummy boss whit my 490 item gear level, have a burst to 200k sometimes, and average 105k so is very good if we think that i dont have elixir, potion and raids buffs
       
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      Is not the CC... appened to me too with rune of power. I'm on my rune and HB return false and CC try to cast rune all time!!! to avoid disable it in gui and cast manually!
       
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      Ok, i know for other days, but whit elegon pulls have the problem that i have PROC UP ice lanze and Fire and no use...so strange, i use heartstone, go dummy boss and work !!!!

      Edit : Have other boss or pulls when CC no working good?? for know
       
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      I am having a lot of issues with "Target needs to be in front of you". I was wondering if your Combat Routine is responsible for not turning to face the target or if it is a HB issue.
       
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      this CC requires you to move the character yourself its ment for Raidbot/Lazyraider/combatbot/Tyreal type bots not for questing grinding or gathering
       

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