Hey guys! ** Moral of this post it that Private/Public Profiles = 100% ban, Randombuddy is the only way to go.**** Gonna post this in 2 different spots so people definitely get what im about to say across. So, about 2 weeks ago some of you may remember me posting about my 2nd main account ( my PVP one) being banned under the pretense of Botting. Now to be fair, i posted under Randombuddy section and after thinking about it for a minute i can honeslty say i dont remember if i was Using the plugin, or a custom profile which i created. I decided to do a little bit of a test just so i was 100% sure of my final conclusions regarding MOP botting vs Randombuddy Vs regular profiles. Some of my results may make you a little bit happier about botting, some may not.! about 3 days after i was banned, i started up 2 Brand spanking new accounts, fully upgraded to MOP and used kicks leveling 1-89(89-90by hand) (given a few other levels by hand) +++++ They were Recruit a Friend'd together (RAF'd) after 2 days i was lvl 90, after 4 days i was 525 herb/mining + a solid 487ilvl (on each) NOTE: -- These were BRAND NEW accounts, not 1 single offence, or ticket was open.! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ so? sweet man your a hardcore leveler you say! - well, not really. i had a goal, my goal was to either get this bitch banned, or not all for you and me to have some more clear evidence. So, about 24 hours ago, i started to gather Herb/Mine in MOP - VotFW + Jade Forrest to be exact (one or the other, never both.) I started my test at 4am server time, 7pm USA time. (barley anybody on right?) Bot 1 = A custom script only i had, nobody else, for "Vally of the Four Winds" Bot 2 = Randombuddy Plugin (Version 0.3 as the new 1 doesnt load new profiles when changed), "Vally of the Four Winds, 85 Hot spots, Random Offsets, Optimize, Refresh every 24 minutes" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Plugins: Bot 1 = Avoid Players @ 187 ft, BlackLister @ 14ft, 0 mobs , Druid's Harvest Helper, Lifehelpers, Talented2, Tidybags 3.0 Bot 2 = Avoid Players @ 200ft, BlackLister @ 14ft, 0 Mobs, Druids harvest Helper, LifeHelpers, Talented 2, RandomBuddy, Tidybags 3.0 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All that being said ( for purpouses of helping figure out detection?) Bot 1 = Lower populated Server Bot 2 = much higher populated server On bot 2, i invited bot 1 so that both would be on the same Low populated Server, and in the same group. in the same zone. (Never said anything in Party, Guild or Region.) So, i started both bots and watched them 100% of the time. Sidenote here: After about 2 hours, i did get a Disconnect error- i thoguth both had been banned, but it was my internet. So i basically sat here and watched the bots run for 8 hours, with 3 different breaks inbetween that. and then i said screw it. and let them run full on. After that 8 hour segment, i hit start, and let them run for an additional 4 hours. Bot 1 - Did NOT receive any sort of PM from a GM, and did not receive any whispers from other players. Bot 2 - was running when bot 1 was banned - both in the same group. So, after bot 1 got disconnected, and it said blah blah blah suspended blah blah blah, i continued to stay in the group on bot 2 WITHOUT hitting stop. i just continue to let him run, hopeing i would see if this Fuking GM had any brains to realise both bots in the same grp, sam ip lololol + the idea of seeing his GM form / a whisper. afterwards, i went to the exact spot where bot 1 was banned and could even see him on my map lol nd jst sat there. Final results after hitting stop 2 mins after ban: [Gatherbuddy2]: Stopped gatherbuddy after gathering 406 nodes in 4h 31m 38s. [Gatherbuddy2]: Silkweed: 54 [Gatherbuddy2]: Ghost Iron Deposit: 161 [Gatherbuddy2]: Green Tea Leaf: 163 [Gatherbuddy2]: Trillium Vein: 8 [Gatherbuddy2]: Golden Lotus: 6 [Gatherbuddy2]: Rich Ghost Iron Deposit: 9 [Gatherbuddy2]: Sha-Touched Herb: 4 [Gatherbuddy2]: Rich Trillium Vein: 1 Not in game ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyway. i wanted to share this with you guys. Using Profiles, weather PRIVATE .. or Public will get you banned 100% of the time. Randombuddy is the way to go. trust me when i say it. Hope you found some of this info good =) + like it! "i applogise to the makers of Randombuddy for my post about being banned, their plugin is genius." BTW guys. This is the Email i received via Bot 1 Curious tho... How could this be a "Final Warning" when i know people who have received up to 3? lol
It's interesting because the 72h is usually to do with player report (Auto Ban after X amount of reports), I see this and other people do agree that this type of ban is to do with player report. If all you said is true then people would be better off something like randomBuddy but what happens when everyone is using that.. people usually report a bot based truly on it's movement (rapid turns, the way it approaches a node etc) very hard to make unique or player like, because randomBuddy is very new then it would look more like a player because GatherBuddy2 is mostly designed just to get nodes and not to not look like a bot. Some people may be surprised that whenever you use a public or private profile, the bot in fact goes on the same mesh file and therefore follows the same path (this has been randomized recently). I think that the biggest threat out there is other botters because there is so many (and that's not even including the illegal versions of HB).
May just start botting Cata / Outland / Anywhere but MOP.. cause i could bot 24 hours straight without incident and that ore sells for 2x as much lol. but,not as popular
The best way to avoid player reports is to avoid players, but the range of avoidance is only 150 yards max (thanks to Blizzard).. I think avoid players blacklist also does a rapid turn even when blacklisting (thanks to CTM...), I should look at this more but I avoid MoP now.. focus more on old style ores although I'm competing against an AH bot (who will get banned as he is posting over 1000 items give or take per day) as there are no players there and it does sell for more but but longer to sell (but im on a mid-pop realm at the moment). Not too bothered at the moment, but I am having trouble with making gold even for raf and I do want more accounts... I'll probably end up making a plugin which kills WoW on X suspected player reports, this is very extreme and pointless unless you have multiple accounts and some other stuff such as Duration of Player Watching.
Blizzard does not have to give a "final warning". They can ban you permanently without any previous offences on the account. It depends on the reason and context of the ban. Most server script bans can be overturned via appeals but its hard to overturn manual investigations and software detection bans.
