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    Discussion in 'Archives' started by nomnomnom, May 13, 2013.

    1. tombot

      tombot New Member

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      Thanks Nom, I'm desperate to get AOE tested out for arms / fury.

      Yeah, Whirlwind is a no-show. Not working at all. I've tested this out on 6 - 8 - 10 mobs at once. Nada
       
    2. tombot

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      BTW - Warriors just got buffed in the hotfix released today. Always excellent news to hear that.

      We did Ordos and before the pull, a lot of AOE trash inside that courtyard. AOE is broke currently with the latest patch you released just a bit ago, no whirlwind, sweeping strike. DPS seemed very low.
       
    3. Coitza

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      nomnom the counts you did are true.. what your mistaking is the fact that slam does 35% of the dmg done to all targets within 2 yards.. when sweeping strikes is active.. there for its allot better then wirld wind.

      1.4.4 was working better imo :)
       
    4. nomnomnom

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      Removed Whirlwind entirely, until I got the math right :) Should be 1.4.6 with the AoE of 1.4.4 :).

      To be honest, I'm doubting on the versions which you are using. I've received numerous reports that AoE in Arms is working properly with Slam-cleave ... Can you get me a logfile?
       
    5. Dominowood

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      Последние исправления очень радуют.
      Воин Неистовство:
      Урон от способности ?Кровожадность? был увеличен на 20%.
      Урон от способности ?Яростный выпад? был увеличен на 20%.
       
    6. Dominowood

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      Noom версию Fury развязали (Rev 145 Beta).ZIP нужно будет чекать через SVN или она будет обновляться автоматически?
       
    7. Stoyo

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      Man.. is it so hard to write in English? What will happen if everyone starts writing in his own language..
       
    8. xzibit

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      well some ppl are still ignorant, i would just ignore them :D but it would be funny to write in foreign language!
       
    9. nomnomnom

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      To be honest, I'd rather let you guys try out the dev rotations instead of paying attention to people with a different language. As I said earlier in the topic, I'm fine with it as my Chrome translates it just fine. I'm kind of dissapointed. There are about 400 to 550 unique users of this routine each day and I have received only 3 reports of users with useful information about the current state. All about Arms. I have no freakin idea how the new Fury rotation performs ...

      Anyway, Arms AoE should be proper now. I've just added Mortal strike to it as a rage generation ability. Keep in mind that Whirlwind is still unsupported as I have to do the math on when WW is better than the Slam-Cleave. Make sure you let your tanks actually stack up adds, so they are wihtin 2 yards of eachother!
       
    10. Dominowood

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      Я не знаю английского языка,поэтому даже ваши сообщения перевожу с английского на русский язык и не плачу как ты. Типа почему ты не можешь писать на русском языке что так трудно что ли,или ты просто не знаешь русский язык? Если тебя не устраивает мой язык тогда переводчик Google тебе в помощь.
       
    11. Dominowood

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      Noom я бы по тестировал его но не могу так как для HB делают новый реализ и пока что на EU он не работает.
       
    12. Stoyo

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      I don't need to use Google. I understand Russian perfectly well. Thing is the official language in this part of the forum is English. If someone has to use Google for translation, it is not the thousands of people reading the forum, it is the few writing in different languages.

      Понятно?
       
    13. xzibit

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      execute phase for new fury rotation seems buggy. tried in different bossfights and he still refuses the use of execute with tg fury o.0 should have logged it, damn -.-
       
    14. dalfo

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      I just see my worldoflog report and yes...with TG, I hit the boss with execute only 3 times....lol
       
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      Sounds good will have to give it ago :)
       
    16. Coitza

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      will try out fury aswell.. and give you some info of how it works once the hb for the new patch is out. :) (im unsure now as they buffed fury a bit if arms is still better)
       
    17. tombot

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      Yeah, the AOE direction seems confusing as well. Slam is very VERY situational. 2 yards? LOL ... you can't take the bigger math, use that logic and think you are going to come out on top. You lose so much DPS counting on those 2 yards that at the end of the raid night, you're left with a lot lower over all dps had you just used whirlwind with its 8 yard range to begin with.

      And apparently I am not alone in this logic / common sense. Icy-Veins, Toxxic, EJ, the community at large, etc etc etc all point to a different rotation than what's being presented to us. Basically, Fury Unleashed is taking a completely different approach and doing it's all new / different.

      BUT, I am open to trying out different rotations. Ideally it would awesome to have the ability to switch between a few different AOE rotations along with selecting the amount of mobs that trigger AOE, etc within the routines UI. My contention is, let's prioritize the best rotation and get it in front of us first. That's all.

      I've raided Siege of Org, 1 heroic / 14 normal, Garrosh down, etc etc, I know the fights, all the trash evolved, the mechanics of those fights and we have tanks that are some of the best I've ever seen. There is absolutely no stacking up anything that you can effectively count on slam and 2 yards. Lets me clear on that. There is just too much running around and following and the majority of mobs along with the boss fights all end up being within 8 yards, not 2. Are some of the mobs / bosses within 2 yards? Of course they are, but that number is A LOT lower than if they were within 8 yards. Just apply common sense / logic to any scenario and right away it's easy to determine whirlwind is going to bring you bigger numbers. More importantly, consistent numbers.

      Do we appreciate the effort and hard work? Of course we do.

      Also, the best thing any Warrior can do here is pay attention to dps trends. Go to the biggest servers, look at top warriors, go look at their dps records, like I have. What do you see, ARMS ... Bladestorm ability ( with the Evil Eye trinket ) and no where, NO WHERE are they counting on slam for AOE. It's right there in black and white in all of those guys dps log breakdowns. If you soak in the bigger picture of the entire Warrior community, the dps logs, all of the how-to warrior enthusiast web sites, the players and their battlenet profiles that list their abilities, the forums, even their gear can be telling, you come away with a very clear picture of what the majority of everyone is doing. This rotation is not representative of that in terms of AOE.

      Slam is situational only during AOE. Use the math to count the mobs, their distance from the player and if it's within 2 yards, use slam if the math makes sense. But the rotation really just needs to be popping bladestorm / whirlwind, etc in most cases for max dps as that seems to be the feedback the community is giving in regards to patch / raid 5.4.

      Thank you again Nom for all your hard work. We love you, we appreciate everything you've done. You've made this game awesome for so many people. Please believe that.
       
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      Dont whirlwind as Arms, nough said.
       
    19. tombot

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      What sources are you basing this off of? Or is this just personal opinion? Appreciate some clarification, thanks.
       
    20. nomnomnom

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      You know what, I'll just make a setting in which you can switch between a whirlwind based arms aoe or a slamcleave based arms aoe :). Problem solved.
       

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