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    1. Mirabis

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      Those bitches had me down for 7 hours lol... Glad I don't run the authentication on the same server xD

      Goodluck!
       
    2. getmunch

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      can you please add a setting to disable totem recall for resto..........It drops healing stream totem and like isntantly recalls it........I cant even use this right now. ( have premium)

      also im not glyphed for mana saving using recall......so no clue why its doing this.......healing stream used to be in my top 3 heals........now im lucky if it makes top 5 :/

      Like I said I havent even been able to use your routine since this started happening. I even raised healing stream health to 3 people below 100% and its better but still recalls frequently :(

      one more thing........I dont have mana issues ever.........is it possible to disable the cancel cast or can you add that as a setting also? I thought you used to have it but I cant find it anymore.(mana saving)

      Thanks!
       
    3. Jeffzilla

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      Ive been having alot of funny issues with HB lately and this happened today on my enh shaman with premium version.

      [01:39:27.270 D] [Lua.Events] Attached to event COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED with handler FormatVector
      [01:39:27.271 D] Applied filter to event COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED. Filter: return (args[2] == 'SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS' or args[2] == 'RANGE_MISSED' or args[2] == 'SWING_MISSED' or args[2] == 'SPELL_CAST_FAILED')
      [01:39:27.273 N] AttachCombatLogEvent
      [01:39:28.424 N] 28:423 HP: 88% Mana: 100 Lvl 90 Horde Shaman 0y 88% hp 88% HW Lightning Shield
      [01:39:30.671 N] 30:671 HP: 89% Mana: 100 Lvl 90 Horde Shaman 0y 89% hp 89% HW Lightning Shield
      [01:39:31.494 N] 31:494 HP: 90% Mana: 100 Lvl 90 Horde Shaman 0y 90% hp 90% HW Lightning Shield
      [01:39:33.395 N] 33:395 HP: 91% Mana: 100 Lvl 90 Horde Shaman 0y 91% hp 91% HW Lightning Shield
      [01:39:35.497 N] 35:496 HP: 92% Mana: 100 Lvl 90 Horde Shaman 0y 92% hp 92% HW Lightning Shield
      [01:39:35.837 N] 35:837 HP: 92% Mana: 100 Lvl 90 Horde Shaman 0y 92% hp 92% HW Lightning Shield
      [01:39:37.050 D] Inserting Lena Stonebrush [Gossip, Questgiver] into the database!
      [01:39:37.182 N] 37:182 HP: 92% Mana: 100 Lvl 90 Horde Shaman 0y 92% hp 92% HW Lightning Shield
      [01:39:38.356 N] 38:356 HP: 93% Mana: 100 Lvl 90 Horde Shaman 0y 93% hp 93% HW Lightning Shield
      [01:39:38.665 N] Stopping the bot!
      [01:39:38.665 Q] Bot stopping! Reason: User pressed the stop button

      It just stands there and spams lightning shield to no end.
       
    4. tuanha

      tuanha Well-Known Member

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      A full log will help me find and solve the problem Jeffzilla, please post it.
       
    5. tuanha

      tuanha Well-Known Member

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      What spec are you talking about? As for Enhancement in bgbuddy in my testing, he top dps AND heal a lot of time.
       
    6. Jeffzilla

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      Here's my log, thanks.

      But im having very similiar issues of other CR's just spamming one skill or nothing that makes sense. I've done several clean installs of HB.
       

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    7. ssandefer

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      Gotta a question: On the Auto Target feature (Special Edition), What is the targeting priority when doing Battlegrounds?
       
    8. getmunch

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      Heal pve that is what i was refering too. Of you drop healing stream in is instantly recalling it. Luckily i have been raiding enh(working perfectly i might add) last few weeks cause resto is sucking for me with totem issue.
       
    9. Grim32

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      So I've been playing about with this for a few weeks now (Premium). And noticed that as a Resto Shaman, I manually have to cast healing rain. This is due to the fact that if I enable the option for healing rain it will often spam it again and again when it is not necessary. When in fact it could keep it up with: Conductivity (Tier 5 talent) if I have it.

      -Grim
       
    10. tuanha

      tuanha Well-Known Member

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      I'm sorry that talent haven't got good logic, as for now there's no API I know that detect if your healing rain is still there. I recommend use other talent.
       
    11. tuanha

      tuanha Well-Known Member

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      Build 5.4.5129
      Improve Enhancement DPS
      Elemental Blast should only used when you have Unleash Flame up (Thank Drewtg7)
      Tremor now also remove Hunter's Wyvern Sting Sleep Effect (Thank Drewtg7)
      Improve Global Cooldown Management
       
    12. Mirabis

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      If I told u a possible solution, you find me a javascript coder :O?


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    13. Drewtg7

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      Ok so here goes,

      THIS IS FOR ENHANCEMENT ONLY

      I have used this CR for only season 14 and i am currently at 2300 rating in 3v3. I am certain that i will go much much higher when i get a stable team.
      My experience in arena is over 2.5k on multiple classes and i can tell you now that this CR is insane if configured correctly. My damage is a BIG DEAL in arena and i am often top, unless i come up against Dks in 3s.
      I have recently informed Tuanha to update the profile to use Unleash elements before every Elemental Blast so now enjoy 30% more damage on your damage from EB :) This has been implemented so update to the latest version.

      COMPS PLAYED
      Beastcleave
      Turbo Cleave

      MY SETTINGS

      Here are my settings that i use and i find that they work great for me. You NEED to use your own movement in arena, it will also help you reach this Combat Routine's max potential if you have a GOOD KNOWLEDGE of the game and how class mechanics work.

      YOU CANT USE THIS CR, PRESS START AND HOPE FOR GLAD, THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN.

      Botbase: Tyrael

      I disable framelock and click to move as i use my own movement keys for the bot, also framelock sometimes gives me insane screen freezing.

      https://imageshack.com/i/n6ctz3p

      GENERAL TAB

      https://imageshack.com/i/ne91bgp

      I like to have Wind Shear ms left set at 400, as i have tested and found that 500+ can look a bit suspicious.
      I use my own Burst macros, hex macros and trinket macros.

      Burst macro:
      #showtooltip
      /cast Ascendance
      /use 14
      /use 10
      /cast Ancestral Guidance
      /cast Elemental Mastery
      /cast Blood Fury(Racial)
      /cast Stormblast

      Will pop Acendance and your trinkets, orc racial, glove tinker if Engineer and also ancestral guidance when you burst

      Hex macros:
      /cast [target=arena1] Hex

      /cast [target=arena2] Hex

      /cast [target=arena3] Hex

      On seperate keybinds

      #showtooltip
      /cast Ancestral Swiftness
      /cast [target=focus] Hex

      Will cast Ancestral Hex and will also hex your Focus, great for the start of games so you can get good momentum over the enemy team

      I have also set my focus 1,2,3 attached to my Stormstrike, macro is:

      #showtooltip
      /startattack
      /focus arena2
      /cast Stormstrike

      I find this macro combats the problem with losing your focus when a player goes in stealth, just change to 1,2 or 3 before the arena starts. Also with the startattack part of the macro if you run in, hit this macro when you start the game, your bot will start its rotation and open with stormstrike.

      COOLDOWN & HOTKEYS TAB

      https://imageshack.com/i/0sw2r5p

      Ancestral Guidance - i like to use with ascendance on my burst macro.
      Shamanistic Rage - You should be controlling your defensives yourself, Sham rage should be used to mitigate incoming damage at high hp, if you use Sham rage when you are low on health then it is wasted
      Totemic Projection - I never use Totemic Projection ever.
      Cap totem - I like to use cap totem on healers out of traps etc so i do this manually.
      Healing Tide totem - Will use this manually at my healers request, i found that if the bot uses it sometimes it is wasted
      Tremor Totem - I will only Tremor my healer as healers can dispel the rest of us but not themselves. The only exception is that i know we are going to get a kill and i get a warrior fear.

      ENHANCEMENT TAB

      https://imageshack.com/i/ghiw0fj

      Feral Spirit - Whilst watching tons and tons of streams from Vanguards and Diablous you will see that they will pop feral spirts asap
      Healing friend and myself boxes - I have these un ticked as i have 3 macros for my partners to heal....

      #showtooltip
      /cast [target=partymembernamehere] Healing Surge

      that was this will help you set up your cross cc better, e.g, facing lsd, my priest wants to fear the resto druid so i will mw5 stack hex the ele shaman so he cant tremor the druid out of fear. If you was to have the healing enabled you might lose the mw5 proc because the bot will heal instead when your priest goes to fear.

      TIPS

      If you go to your honorbuddy>Routines>TuanHAShamanSpecialEdition>Settings folder.
      Find the file that has your shaman's name in it (TuanHA-Shaman-Settings-20130906-charnamehere)>right click>Open With>Notepad
      You can actually turn alot of the spells off by changing it from >TRUE< to >FALSE<, I would recommend doing this for Ancestral Swiftness.

      SLOT:ITEM:REFORGE

      Helm: Grievious Gladiator's Linked Helm, expertise>crit
      Neck: Grievious Gladiator's necklace of the Powess, Haste>crit
      Shoulders: Grievious Gladiator's Linked Spaulders, expertise>mastery
      Cloak: Grievious Gladiator's Cape of Prowess, Hit>crit
      Chest: Grievious Gladiator's Linked Armor, no reforge
      Bracers: Grievious Gladiator's, Wristguards of Alacrity, haste>crit
      Gloves: Grievious Gladiator's Linked Guantlet's, hit>mastery
      Belt: Grievious Gladiator's Links of Cruelty, no reforge
      Legs: Grievious Gladiator's Linked Leggings, Haste>mastery
      Boots: Grievious Gladiator's Sabatons of Cruelty, no reforge
      Ring1: Grievious Gladiator's Ring of Accuracy, hit>crit
      Ring2: Grievious Gladiator's Ring of Cruelty, Haste>mastery
      Trinket 1: Grievious Gladiator's Medallion of Cruelty, crit>mastery
      Trinket 2: Grievious Gladiator's insignia of Conquest, no reforge
      Main Hand: Grievious Gladiator's Pummeler (go axe if Orc), no reforge
      Off Hand: Grievious Gladiator's Pummeler (go axe if orc), no reforge
      EXTRA WEP FOR DISARM: Grievious Gladiator's Pummeler (go axe if orc), no reforge

      TALENTS
      Tier 1, Nature's Guardian - Nature's Guardian (NG) is the best in the first tier at the moment in my opinion, Stone Bulwark is not bad but due to the fact that the totem can be destroyed and also the effect can be purged it is not very veliable damage absorbs. NG has saved me countless times against RMD with the hard openers. Get the addon ExtraCD to show you the Cooldown of NG and a good idea is to communicate with your healer to let them know if you have it or not. (you dont want to be overlapping NG and Guardian Spirit).

      Tier 2, Windwalk Totem - I usually run with WW totem because my favourite comp (beastcleave) often has many roots that can DR the effect on Earthgrab (Narrow escape talent, Void Tendrils). Against most teams you, or your team mates will be rooted in place and will need your freedom to keep them offensive. Luckily for you, the option for this is in the CR!

      Tier 3, Call of the Elements - No brainer for Enhancement, this is hands down the best option, having 2x tremor, 2x cap totem and 2x Grounding is just insane. Usually against hunters teams running with a warrior i will tremor a wyvern sting if it goes on my healer and then reset my totems ready for the intimidation Shout.

      Tier 4, Ancestral Swiftness - Great 10% passive haste bonus for melee, also when used with Hex is perfect instant CC at the start of games to get you some pressure.

      Tier 5, Ancestral Guidance - Heals your whole team for 40% of the damage you deal, I use this with Ascendance for its max potential healing. Will also keep your team offensive in burst windows.

      Tier 6, Elemental Blast - This is 100 % highest damaging ability, making sure you have Unleash Flame buff up from Unleash Elements will give you +30% dmg to your ele blast. 100k+ crits are insane.

      GLYPHS

      Glyphs are extremely situational, most of the time i like to play offensive glyphs, this being Glyph of Lightning Shield, Glyph of Purge and Glyph of Hex. But when facing up against Rogue/mage/healer i will change this to defensive glyphs, Lightning Shield, Healing Storm and Shamanistic Rage.

      GENERAL GAMEPLAY
      You need to get to know your oponents, know class mechanics and you will excell with this Routine.

      Against Rogue/Mage setups
      Be ready to take a hard beating in the opener because often they will open you, get a Magma Totem down and drop a healing rain on yourself. If the rogue uses shadow dance or the mage uses orb your should shamanistic Rage instantly. Frozen Orb and dance are 1 minute cooldowns so your shamanistic rage will be back for it every time. Another great tip on the opener is use your Ancestral Swiftness to hex the mage, even though you will be killing the mage, any sort of cc to stop their opener is crucial. Save your trinket for Smoke Bomb.

      Against any Hunter cleave
      If your oponents are good they will silence you when they go for a trap. my advise is communicate with your healer and be ready to eat traps if you cant grounding them. Often with your first CC on the healer you should drop your Stormlash and get your damaging going on the hunter. If the hunter uses Roar of Sacrifice wait it out, let the effect fall off, then hit your ascendance. You will either one shot the hunter or force an early deterance/ trinket. After that it is just a case of keeping agressive and stopping traps.

      Thanks for reading and i will add to this when i have more time, sorry if there are a few typos.
      Thank you for reading :)
       
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      Build 5.4.5140
      • Add option Ancestral Guidance when x friend HP below y percent
      • Add option to use Call of the Elements to reset Totem(s) Cooldown including
      • Capacitor - Earthgrab - Grounding - Healing Stream - Tremor - Windwalk
      • Fix Healing Rain issue when use Conductivity Talent
      • Improve Windwalk Totem logic
      • Redesigh Shamanistic Rage, old version use when your HP below X, new version use when enemy use offensive cooldown attacking you. Enemy burst including:

      107574, // -- Avatar
      12292, //-- Bloodbath-- Death Wish
      121471, //-- Shadow Blades
      51271, // "Pillar of Frost",
      49016, //"Unholy Frenzy",
      102560, // "Incarnation: Chosen of Elune",
      124974, //"Nature's Vigil",
      106952, //"Berserk ",
      19574, //"Bestial Wrath",
      3045, //"Rapid Fire",
      12472, //"Icy Veins",
      //"Time Warp",
      //"Tigereye Brew",
      31884, //"Avenging Wrath",
      105809, //"Holy Avenger",
      86698, //"Guardian of Ancient Kings",
      86669, //"Guardian of Ancient Kings",
      51713, //"Shadow Dance",
      51690, // "Killing Spree",
      13750, //Adrenaline Rush
      114049, // "Ascendance",
      114051, // "Ascendance",
      //"Bloodlust",
      113858, //"Dark Soul: Instability",
      1719, //"Recklessness",
      114207, //"Skull Banner",
      46924, //Bladestorm
      147531, //Bloodbath

      These response mostly for Drewtg7 suggestion on the missing part (or need to use macro manually) to get high rating in arena (2k3+)

      Thank Drewtg7 for your help on Shaman community <
       
    15. Greg

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      Yo im using tuan war edition its fuckin amazing... and if anyone wants to collaborate and hit up some 3s or even 5s im 2.2k exp with 1900 cr in 3s and 2100 cr in 5s i got toons on both ally and horde hit me up (i also have a shammy with tuan along with hunter.)
       
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      Cr is not using grounding when hunter throws a trap on my healer
       
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      playing as elemental, when someone is kiting me CR is always trying to cast lava burst ( if is not on cooldown ). Versus a monk is impossible to do dps if the cr is always trying to cast lava burst, cuz monks runs a lot and I need to dps runing
       
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      I would really like to get back to using this routine.......could you please address this tuan.
       
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      What I see is HoldBotAction Casting Healing Surge, then bam, stops doing anything.
      This has been more than a month now, the fully afk doesn't actually work more than about 10 minutes before stopping all actions, which of course leads to dying, and it still doesn't act (sits afk at the gy). When is this going to be placed in the public release? I'm about to try with out of combat HS checked off to see if that stops the error, and if that's the case you should at least make that the default setting in the public release.

      On a different note, I've had a lot of success using the healing when I'm lazy in LFRs, just wanted people to know don't bother with Conductivity as the bot will refresh HR after 10 seconds regardless of the current remaining duration. Still frequently tops meters, even in low-moderate gear.
       
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      Last premium revision fixed conductivity talant......at leasts thats what the notes said.

      Not sure about free version
       

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