Bennyquest, I am trying to gear up my priest using Holy, I have set lightwell to True but it never seems to activate. Can you check this for me? Also I am not sure what you guys think but the changes to Disc don't look great and I suspect Holy will shine in WOD. Thoughts?
Can i also use a higher version then 4.5 for my .net version? Because i doesn´t work by me and i already have a higher version installed.
i'm running it on one machine with 4.5.1 and on the other machine with 4.5 so yeas it is possible to run with a higher version
yea, lightwell placement was bugged the last time we ran through on holy. I don't quite remember what the issue was but it never got fixed. Can just place it manually. About WoD, not real sure supposedly holy nova is going to be a big thing now so we will have to see how it plays out.
From what i see by reading several dedicated forums priests are actually quite worried atm, shadows are crying for removal of healing spells, removal of some ccs, rest of ccs sharing diminishing returns and I THINK that their pet is gone hence survivability drop. Holy is also in a bad spot as chakras are changed and none of experienced players like new way how they work, penance got cut and holy nova now have a cap of ppl that can hit, its not "everything in the range of spell" as it is on live atm. Discs are currently silent as none of those changes actually impact their bubbles and so far their core play is untouched. I also see that resto shamans are screaming too unpleased with changes, stacking of healing rain, chain heal being extremely dumb and nerf of some of core spells. Mist monks in current alfa are in extremely bad spot. Their mastery is useless still and stat priority has been changed. Two healing stances are currently unbalanced and gear drops dont allow deeper testing as they are in the game just for testing purposes. Several experienced theorycrafters dedicated to mist found several broken mechanics and overlaping tallents/spells in both stances, crane and serpent. However they keep their voice down cause blizz stated that mastery for mists will be reworked from scratch. We can just keep it low and wait for that new mastery and take the things from there. I havent quite read much about rDruids and hPalas so i cant say much for them. Keep in mind that this is early alfa and lots of things can and probably will be changed. Im kinda altoholic, having all classes and almost all specs above i540 i can choose what will i play, BUT personally ill stick to my monk, even so i read A TON of negative feedback on them for every spec. I enjoy playing him and fistweaving sounds simply.. To good to be true.. Bringing good healing trough decent DPS is amazing. Pretty much extra dps who can help pulling trough DPS checks on enrage timers, specially early in expansion/progress.
Like you stated, everything is in alpha....it was literally release what two days ago? There is so much that is going to change from alpha to beta and then beta to release. Honorbuddy and combat routines will evolve. There is always someone saying x class is better than y so on and so forth. We all just have to wait.
Well.. I wouldnt recommend you to go Fistweaving for several reasons. For once fistweaving is doable only on few bosses outside of lfr and maybe flex soo. Second, to achieve it to work correctly you need to lower or even turn off several spells among which are shooting mist, enveloping mist and surging mist. Bottom line is that you want to do as less active healing as you can pulling all your healing from your attacks. Also you would need to turn off Uplift on maximum chi, as you are wasting GCD and potential chi for bok. Your rotation will basically be tiger palm, jab, blackout kick, enveloping mist, uplift, surging mist on 5stacks of viral mists, your tiger, revival, Thunder focus tea and defensive cds. Statue placement by routine is also an issue so you should do this manually. Following.. Since youre asking about fistweaving i presume that you already read about it, but just in case, ill write it here for the people that are interested in reading trough. Fistweaving is highly gear depending, the higher ilvl u have more "default" spirit and intellect you will have. Stat prior is like this: Spirit [min 5100] > haste [one of soft caps] > critt [around 40ish raid buffed] > int > more haste. You need atleast 5100 spirit to hit expertise and hit caps, ofc reforge into spirit until you find your mana regen comfortable. Haste adds more ticks to our hots and channels. Critt for those attacks to crit, therefor heal more and crit heal more. Int is increasing raw power of our attacks therefor our heals too. Now.. Main issue.. Fistweaving should not be event tried until you get healing legend meta gem. Next difference is that fistweaving uses caster dps version of legend cloak. Theres also a debate should fistweavers take dps or healer legend meta gem and should we use 1h + offhand or 2h weapon. All simcraft shows that 2h caster weapon with dps meta gem provides around 10-15% more healing, but without healing meta gem you will go oom pretty fast unless you reforge/gem into high spirit. This would give you higher raw healing, but sacrifice your additional hot ticks from higher haste. With all this being said, it means that, if you decide to go seriously into fistweaving as i did, you need to have two legend cloaks, healing and casters. You should, but not necessary, also have 1h+oh and 2h weapons, but also and two helms, one with dps meta, second with heal meta to be able to swap them as you need. commonly setup is casters legend cloak, head with heal meta and 1h+oh as you dont need to swap ur gear too. Since my monk is atm on farming soo i have luxurity to experiment with the gear therefor with Oracle settings too. Oracle does really good job in basic fistweaving, however to achieve optimal fistweaving rotation you will need to, as i said, turn off or tune down most of your core healing spells and often you will have to pause rotation to do emergency healing. Im still experimenting with my oracle settings as i want to find settings that will work on all fights in soo. I asked similar question a month ago expecting reply from more experienced ppl but i havent got any reply on it, so i presume that there is only few of us that want to fistweave. Oh.. And sorry for wall of txt.
I found a lot of good info on how to fist-weave on Icy-Veins. Have you figured out a way to make Oracle shine fistweaving? ALso, fistweaving is important in all fights -- you never do it all the time, and you never not do it at all if that makes sense.
Hey guys! I was wondering how this cr would work in challenge modes? Im thinking my discpriest would be up for it. If it works well, do i need to change any settings from the nomal i guess raidsettings? Thx and cheers!
i started to do challenge modes when oracle first came out, i handled it just fine, but you will have to come up with your own settings i would believe.
Haven't followed the thread lately but I remember reading about Oracle 2 with much improved logic e.t.c. Is it still on work? Something gone bad? Or you focus more on WoD now rather than live?
Hello there, I did my first Heroic attempt on some bosses, SoO HC. Unfortunately I have some issues with certain spells. * On Malkorok Heroic Encounter How do I turn of Pain suppression and Void Shift? Kinda annoying when not have control over some spells in certain situations. It's casting PS right away on the pull (I have set it to 0 in settings but unfortunately it's still casting at the pull or when I don't want it to cast "at the wrong times, wrong tank". Also it casts Void Shift when someone has low HP and also casting Desperate prayer on myself.. Malkorok encounter was enabled. * On General Nazgrim Heroic, Void Shift seems to kill people or close to it. Including myself because of bad timings. Can someone explain to me how I can turn it off or set it correctly?
Well I see no point sending a log since it works fine. Nothing wrong with the CR. I just want to know how i can turn it off. I want to control those spells my self instead the cr pops its like i mentioned in my previous post.
The shaman is still not up to par with either Tuanha or KingWow. The latter being specially build for PvE. Say you have 4 targets getting under your healing surge treshold, Oracle will start healing them one by one. While KingWow will correctly save the one that is lowest and then aoe heal them all together. Can easily be seen in the siegemaster fight and also garrosh. I experimented with setting the treshold higher since it kept loosing tanks, healing too late. But too high (60) it ends up single target healing ppl it should aoe heal. The goal should be to one man heal a 10man encounter. And so far KingWow is doing a better job keeping people alive. My suggestion is to get him on your team if he is not already. His implementation of sos healing is still top dollar But you have better encounter specific logic so I will use oracle on malkorok for example. In conclusion the routine should understand and predict incoming damage so it knows when you have time to heal people up using aoe, and when you have to single heal one player that is about to die. Meaning it should know the difference between sustained damage and a blast. After a blast you have time to heal ppl up and even they are low health they are not about to die, so no reason to pop all cd's to heal them up. So instead of healing based only on ppl's health you heal based on the encounter mechanics. Easy to say, hard to implement
Sorry I see in your original post that it says "Proving Ground Support" but when I click the link it takes me somewhere in the center of the thread. But I see no relevant information. I would like to use this to do my proving grounds but "out of the box" I am having little success.
the link should've pointed to this post https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honor...8-oracle-beta-cc-post1265236.html#post1265236
