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  • Honorbuddy vs. WOW Performance 25' Raid HELP PLS

    Discussion in 'Honorbuddy Support' started by huju3967, Jun 24, 2014.

    1. huju3967

      huju3967 New Member

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      GERMAN (4 English text scroll down pls)

      Hallo leute,
      ich benutze HB für WoW jetzt schon länger. Hauptsächlich beim Raiden mit einigen Twinks, bei denen die Combat Routine sehr gut funktioniert. Da die meisten Gruppen nun auf 25'er Raids umstellen, merke ich einen enormen FPS verlust beim Raiden. Teilweise 3-8 FPS bei Kampfbeginn, dann maximal 12-15 FPS Infight. In der Submerge Phase bei Norushen sogar 0-1 FPS Standbild. Egal welche Botbase (Lazyraider oder Tyrael) und auch unabhängig von der Routine.
      In den Foren hat sich noch nie jemand über derartige Probleme beschwert, das macht mich stutzig. Auch in 10'er Raids habe ich nur max 20-30 FPS Infight, manchmal bissel mehr.
      Vielleicht kann mir irgendwer Helfen? Es folgen noch einige Angaben zu meinen Einstellungen und meiner Hardware:

      Intel Core i5 3470 3.2 Ghz (Neuer Kühler, sitzt auch Richtig - temp normal)
      Nvidia GeForce MSI GTX 560 Ti
      Monitor 60 Hz

      Ingame Einstellungen:

      max vorder-/ Hintergrund FPS beides auf ca 60 ( den wert hab ich noch nich ausprobiert, hatte beides immer auf 200, eben erst geändert )
      dreifach Buffering - aktiv
      eingabeverz verringern - deaktiviert
      grafikschnittstelle - direkt x 11
      hardwarecursor - aktiviert

      auflösung - 1920x1080
      monitor - primär
      anzeigemodus - fenster ( geht ja wegen HB nicht anders )
      multisampling - 2x
      vertical synch - aktiviert (60hz)

      [grafik - Hoch]

      texturauflösung - hoch
      filter - 8x anisotrop
      projezierte texturen - deaktiviert

      sichtweite - gut
      umgebungsdetails - hoch
      bodenobjektdichte - hoch

      schattenquali - niedrig
      flüssigkeitsdetail - gut
      sonnenstrahlen - hoch
      partikeldichte - mittel
      ssao - hoch

      Bei den Ingame Grafikeinstellungen, muss ich dazu sagen, habe ich schon viel bis sehr viel ausprobiert und die RaidFPS mit honorbuddy hat sich nie wirklich verbessert. Grafikkarteneinstellung der Nvidia Karte sind übrigens über den treiber auf Anwendungsgesteuert und High Performance, Ausserdem sind die Energiesparoptionen auch überall auf Hohe Leistung. Ich weiß jetzt nicht mehr weiter Ich hoffe, dass jemand von euch schnell abhilfe Leisten kann. LG

      Ich benutze folgene Routines:

      Fury Unleashed Release
      Insanity Premium
      Demonic Premium

      Das OG Problem habe ich aber mit allen Routines, und ich hab wirklich fast alle ;) langsam nervts mich :(


      English:

      Hey Guys,
      I'm using HB für WoW. not for Farming, just for Raids with some Twinks. Because Combat Routine works very good for some Rotations (Fury Unleashed and Demonic, Insanity (Millz). The most Raids are now 25'er Raids, and instead of this i have a big FPS lost while raiding. typicaly 3-8 FPS at the beginning of the fight, after that a maximum of 12-15 FPS Infight. at the Submerge Phase within Norushen always 0-1 FPS = locked frame. It doesn't matter which Botbase (Lazyraider or Tyrael) and also not depending on the Routine.
      i didn't found a common problem, described by other users in forums, that makes me unsave. also in 10'er Raids, i have just 20-30 FPS maximum Infight, sometimes a little bit better.
      maybe someone could help me? Now some facts about hardware and settings:

      Intel Core i5 3470 3.2 Ghz (Neuer Kühler, sitzt auch Richtig - temp normal)
      Nvidia GeForce MSI GTX 560 Ti
      Monitor 60 Hz

      Ingame Einstellungen:

      max front-/ background FPS both on ca 60 ( i changed this setting a fiew minutes ago, before always at 200 )
      thresome Buffering - aktiv
      eingabeverz reduce - deaktiviert
      grafikschnittstelle - direkt x 11
      hardwarecursor - aktiviert

      auflösung - 1920x1080
      monitor - primär
      anzeigemodus - window ( because of hb )
      multisampling - 2x
      vertical synch - aktiviert (60hz)

      [grafik - High]

      texturauflösung - high
      filter - 8x anisotrop
      projezierte texturen - deaktiviert

      sichtweite - good
      umgebungsdetails - high
      bodenobjektdichte - high

      shadowquali - low
      waterdetail - gut
      sun - high
      partikeldichte - middle
      ssao - high

      I changed the ingame settings a lot of times without any result, and the RaidFPS with honorbuddy never changed a lot. Grafikchip-settings of Nvidia chip are within the driver at "application-controlled" and High Performance, also the Energysaving options in Windows are at "high Performance". i am little bit helpless, and hope, someone of you can help me quick. greets
       
    2. nomnomnom

      nomnomnom Well-Known Member

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      That is indeed terrible performance. What happens with your framerate once you pause the bot? And post logfiles!
       
    3. huju3967

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      edit: Ich habe vergessen zu erwähnen, dass ich im Vollbildmodus und ohne HB in 10er Raids um die 100+ FPS habe und in 25er Raids um die 40+ FPS.
      I forgot to say, that WoW, running in fullscreen, without HB, in 10man raids works with 100 fps or higher an 25man 40 fps or higher.
       
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      it doesn't matter if i press the pause button in potbase or directly in hb... the performance and framerate stays bad... i look for some logfile. wait a second. i have to search where they are saved :D
       
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      Start with disabling the softlock in Tyrael, restart HB and see what that does for you. If thats the same, other way around -> Disable hardlock, enable softlock and restart HB.
       
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      OK i'll try, but i have this same problem since i use hb in raids. the tyrael feature with hard and softlock is not that old. and i had this performance problems before, and also with lazy raider, where this feature doesn't exist. but i will give it a try.
       
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      i did testraid, and the performance doesn't change much. and there is no real difference in fps. just the dps is higher with softlock enabled... to check this out i went to a dummy and gave both 4 tryes...
       
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      hey huju,

      ich hab genau das gleich problem ... habe auch einen starken gaming laptop , doch leider im raid spiele ich mit 10-15 fps... grafik ganz runter gedreht ... hardlock , softlock , und und und
      alles schon probiert ... leider bis jetzt auch keine lösung gefunden
       
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      Irgendwer noch andere Ideen oder Vorschläge?
       
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      Tony "The Bee" Staff Member Moderator

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      Guys,this is the EN section of our forums
       
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      i'm sorry... but that's the reason why i placed my problem in english and german. rosek just mentioned that he is with the same problem.
       
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      Direct X 11 auf 9 Stellen ... vertical sync aus Probiere das mal. bei mir ists seit dem ruckelfrei

      use direct X 9 instead of 11. my bot and game is running flawless
       
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      the vertical sync was because of fury unleashed. it's recommended for this routine i think. but i'll give the direct X9 a try, because someone else told this to me this morning in an other forum :) Thanks
       
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      and did it works ? with x9 ???
       
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      You can disable vsync if you want for the routine. Its advised, not required :).
       
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      I might have a solution for you. Its probably because of an addon like Recount or Skada.
      Your system may struggle with "any" addon which processes all of the combat data live to give you DPS/healing statistics mostly laggy on the pull.

      Disable those addons and try a 25 again (LFR or so).
      If that is the case then clear the stored data or re-install those addons but make sure to delete the saved variables.

      Its not HB or your computer tho you have a problem with addons causes problems.

      Hope it helps.
       
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      i dont think that addons are the problem...
      because without bot and addons on , we have 50 fps+
       
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      it defininitely works better with DX9, but sure not that performance that i have without the bot. it's the half of fps. turning out skada brings about +5 fps in 25 man raid...
       

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