Got banned Again after 4 day of botting on new accounts, help me figure out this =)

Hello guys, i was banned 23/06/2014 on 5 bots leveled with raf/dungeonbuddy way, after levelling them and bot 1 day they got banned, i was like "ok, is a banwave cuz i hear in my server a lot of people got banned that day", i w8 15 days just to be sure and w8 the blizzard sales end (i don't know but i think they easily do banwave on sales just to be sure), this was the "introduction", the problem is:
I started 4 day ago 5 new toon, same way raf/db, got them lvl max start bot and get banned the first day of farm, today.

Pretty sure they did not stuck and no one reported me watched them 90% of the time, no wisp nothing to be afraid about...

Now i'm kinda sure they are "watching me", cuz in this year i got some banwave but NEVER get banned 4 day after got toons, and i got an average banwave every 3 mounth which is normally for my purpose..
So i use the same payment method, same pc, same connection but in my country i just need to restart router to get new ip and that's nice to bot..
Now help me to figure out what to do:
Should i change payment metod? (i usually use paypal, this time i try with the credid card of my paypal instead on 3/5 toons and they got banned)
Should i get new pc? (do they have my mac id? my "main" account did not get banned but i never log it when i'm botting..)
Should i..?
Can someone have reported me badly and they are tracking me for that? (i don't sell stuff on ah, and no one know my toons, only people on skype know that i bot but they still don't know my bot, can they had got my ip with resolver and reported me?)

I'm really confused on what to do as u can see, what is the best to do for be safe now that they are watching me.-.

Thanks in Advance

 

What farm ?

 

Pandaria Ore and Herb as usuall, i try different profile too

 

GB farm, 99% ban serch new farm, not GB

and RAF(5 man dungeon) its risk ban too. use x3 questing or x1 questing.I know many ppl who banned after 1-3 days lvled in dungeon any farm

 

U really don't got the point man.. thx anyway..

 

1 word:
R a n d o m i z a t i o n.

Servers are flagging and autobanning accounts, which are doing a sole task - goldfarming - no matter, if they gather herbs/ores, or farming GrimBatol over and over again.

Just implement random activities, like joinning LFR, few afk arenas, or Random Scenarios, and/or invest several minutes into every account with manual play, like going to tag the Celestials, and do a tour on the Timeless isle, opening boxes and getting some easy epics etc, anything,
Then share the results!

 

More then 1 word:

T h x F o r T h e T i p s B u t R e a d M y P o s t B e f o r e R a n d o m T i p s xD

I'm botting for MORE then a year, i got banned only 2 time (in a fuking year, and last 6 mounths i did 24/7 and got only 1 ban 3 months ago) before this 2 ban, and last 6 months i DID exactly what i did for 6 MONTHS bolt time, and in sure NO ONE reported me, SO is not about what i DO, is about i level toons and after 1 day they ban me no matter what, so i obliviusly about i'm tracked/watched or i don't know how to call it, and my question is one, WHAT I have to change to stop this watching over me:
I suspect they track me from payment method and mac address, but I'M NOT SURE i'm asking to someone that know better about this if i have to change:
Computer parts, payment method, router (i have dinamic ip) or something else, that's all:

"Servers are flagging and autobanning accounts, which are doing a sole task - goldfarming - no matter, if they gather herbs/ores, or farming GrimBatol over and over again."
Thx god i'm in european server and i did the same shit things for the same time and got no problem before (and know lot of people doin the same or farming istance like u say 24/7 and no ban for months (or never!)..), so i don't think it work like that at least it was not working like this before, the ban i get reading the mails are more like a kind of "banhammer" but only on me.. i'm gonna try again after I know what i should try change before waste money on accounts.

I appreciate any tips and reply, and i will say thx to you again for it, but please, i don't need tips on how to bot, i need tips on what to do when u got tracked/watched, if you know something about tell me if you like to help a sad boy xD, thx again =)

More info about:
Account have different random name and stuff, only payment method is the same and they are in raf, so is oblivius if one get banned the other will follow, the problem is, do they track payment method? cuz i really start think that is it, i will try soon a different credit card anyway and post the result hope it whould help at least =)

 

Try to change MAC ID, Hard Disc serial number, deinstall WOW, delete everything from registry about WOW and install new WOW. PM for details about software for that.
I am not saying that will help you, but you can try.
Good Luck bro!

 

Thx man, ill gonna try everything, PM you now =)

 

Change every single aspect about your account, including/especially payment method. If that GM has a hard on for you, he just looks up what other accounts are paid for by the same card. Voila, there goes all your other accounts. This is how we see "mini banwaves" of a guy getting seemingly unrelated accounts all lost in one day. As much as we like to think so, they aren't as dumb as we wish they were.... They are regular people too. With common sense. Ad yeah, if that fails you might have to go the MAC route, hell I would change it ALL just to be safe. If you change everything (including IP address) there is absolutely NO WAY, you will have issues again, aside from clearly unsafe botting. ;-)

 

Thx for the tips man, i have some question: my main account is frozen atm, if i pay with the credid card i use usually they gonna ban me (even if i don't bot on him?), cuz i whould use that only for it and make another for bots, and, i'm afraid about that account, could they just wait me to add game time to ban it? (i hear they do shit like that)
And, how i can change mac address of the router?
"if that fails you might have to go the MAC route", can you explain this part please? =)
I'm in fact able to change everything without change any piece of my computer in you opinion? Thx in advice =)

 

there was no banwave, as to your question... it has been answered.

you ask what you should do. if you dont want to get banned every week dont use gb or bot 5man dungeons. and if you do dont do it for hours on end but mix in random stuff.

 

Again someone that don't read the post xD i did the same stuff for 6 mounth and get only one ban 3 mounth ago (and that was a banwave for sure cuz i have lot's of friend botting and we ask each other when ban happens..), so your reply is pretty random man.. My question was answered anyway from the 2 last guy that help me out =) thx anyway for the enfort =)

 

Imp, I have not been in your situation in a very long time, but I was there at one point, so I can share with you what I did, YMMV ofc! I simply Googled how to change my PC's MAC address (MAC Spoofer is what you are looking for). Before doing that though, I would go get yourself a prepaid WoW card, and try that. See if they aren't just using your payment method as a means to track your bot accounts and ban them systematically one by one. If a GM has a hard-on for you, he has a bunch of ways at his disposal to "follow" you around, most of them you are aware of, and have taken precautions against. I think if you simply change you payment method to a diff source, you might be OK, but OFC I can't guarantee that lol >.< Good Luck man! Let us know how it works out for you, dont quit! Stick it to em every chance you get ;-)

 

its funny u keep saying they didnt read the post. What they are saying is actually something that is true. dont use something that is so so high ban rate. Secondly, u shoudlve read up on changing hwid, reinstallign Windows yadayada

 

Thx for the tips man, i'm working out that and gonna get a new credit card (not as me as owner) to try all soon, thx again really =)

Well i understand your point man, but for my way of farm get a ban every 2-3 mounths is really fine, that's all =)
Gonna try everything out, thx for the tips =)

 

Im going to give you the way I was able to get around the system. This is coming from a Cyber Security Engineer, so I know all about tracking.

A new PC would be best but of course that is expensive.

Alternative
1) Load a new operating system.
2) Only run one game per profile. What that means is dont log as as you on the operating system. IE Windows and dual box. If you have to do that use vmware.
3) Get a new network card. You can get them for 10-20 on ebay.
3) Get a new router.
4) Your ISP is proving your a IP address which is probably dynamic which means it changes. You can mask you ip by buying a tool for around 20.00. A easier way would be just ask your ISP for a new IP address. Tell them you are having problems.
5) You MAC was changed when you got your new network card, HOWEVER, if you did not spend the 20.00 you can buy software to do this. Google Mask MAC and IP
6) DO NOT use the same payment method.
7) Do NOT use your real name in your email address or even give your real name when you sign up to your email account.

If you do all that there is no way in the world they can track you. If you choose to mask your ip with software YOU MUST enable it everytime you play. If you mess up once and do not enable you could appear on their radar.

Good luck!!

 

Ok soo.. i might not be helpful as much, but ill share my 2c. You guys fail to notice that he DID hit level 90 on those accounts, i dont want to be rude (and sorry if i am) but youre not telling us something. IMO there is no way that Blizz or any GM would allow you to HIT level 90 and then ban you, you should be banned waayyy before hitting lvl 90 if your accounts rise that much red flag as you think they are.

Next, you guys are going far to deep into paranoia, mainly OP whos politely discarding/ignoring some constructive and simple suggestions thinking that problem is far bigger than actually is.
First, Blizz would violate privacy rights big time by reading ANY part of your PC outside wow process and network info related to it. Blizz can access your IP, MAC address, Windows info, payment and account info, Warden scans wow process and its offsets for nonregular bytes (thats when HB auto shut down) and scans whole WoW instalation folder (PQI/PE addon banwaves, next to unsafe lua unlocks which led to enormous banwaves).

Second, someone already said, solution is "randomization." You should be aware that dungeonbuddy (as well as Gatherbuddy/Gatherbuddy2) use "waypoint" pattern to go trough dungeon, tracing them is extremely easy as they are fixed location on x-y-z coordinates on specific map. Its already known that blizz does have tracing tools which caused tons of banwaves in the past using gatherbuddy "waypoint" farm.
Tracing waypoints in dungeons is easier as "map" is a lot smaller and i presume that profile paterns for dungeons, which ARE PUBLIC, werent updated for a long time. Waypoint coordinates can be easily found by opening dungeon file in notepad. So having 5characters on 5accounts with same billing info which is connected to previously banned accounts rising same waypoint alerts over and over is kinda.. obvious, dont you think? i think it is.
Same goes for Gatherbuddy/Gatherbuddy 2 farms and their public profiles. So if you used gatherbuddy public profiles, 80-90% thats the reason for your bans, connect it with payment info on which there were already banned accounts -> ban. Have you used Gatherbuddy/Gatherbuddy 2 on them?
Following.. I never used RAF so i got a quick question for anyone who use it.. Isnt 4 days for 1-90 kinda fast? If so you probably spent "non-human" ingame time during your bot sessions and thats one more thing on which blizz pays attention.

From all that being said possible ways for blizz to "connect" your accounts with already banned ones are said above, i would say mainly static IP (which you dont have), MAC and billing info if you used same credit card as on already banned account.
Imo, try with simple solutions, switch to gamecard and create new email address for new accounts, completely uninstall wow, do registry cleanup, install it in different location and try using some free proxy to hide your IP, even so you dont actually need it as you have dynamic IP which is changed, as you mentioned, just by reseting your router and randomize your boting and bot logically. With all that being said, I dont see the point in going so extensively to actually PAY for software to hide yourself when you havent even tried basic, simple and completely free solutions.

Once more, im sorry if i was rude or not helpful i really felt the need to jump in when i saw that few of them actually thought trough you problem and gave you some constructive suggestions.

EDIT: just so you know, I did notice several ban related topics in which ppl used 3-5charrs RAF and dungeonbuddy combo and they were banned far before they hit lvl 90 so that maybe something on what blizz pays attention too.

 

Well, first of all, thx for the enfort you put in reply me and for your precius time you spend to help me =)
Let me try to give you more information then:
Well... i'm italian, and i bot on the only 2 italian server, and i did it in english server too and SEE with my eyes that what you say about "randomize" is a must in english, but..
On italian server is really strange, is hard to explain, as example i see Ah bot reported from 30 player and they took monts to ban them, i see people bot Pandaria Herb And Minning 24/7 for months and don't get banned.. is really a strange server..
I bot like "my" way for 6 months, and got only one banwave (as i told, sure about it cause other botter i know got banned too, someone for 72, someone permaban..)

To answer some of your question or tips:
I make new mails for every bot, with random "real" name" the only things that SURE fucks up is the payment method whitch i think is the first things i'm gonna try to change, i mean, i gonna do a "test" botting with a new payment method and change the "changeable" stuff from my pc.
I changed connection ip almost every day, don't know if that is bad or good but in fact that worked before.. but i'm sure that blizzard surelly have a way to track computer cuz i NEVER get a message like "Blizzard has locked the Battle.net account XXXXXXXX@ XXXX.com due to an unusual change in its access pattern." or something like that, which happen if i try log from a different computer/connection, now probly they just check where is the last stop you connected and if is near they did not block your pc.. but ever then is suspicius i think.

The main reason i fucked up is the payment method for sure, even if i use it only to buy wows and not to pay months..
Is really weirdo my server as i told you, but i ask this days to botter friend and no one of them was banned, and i know one that is farming gundrak 24/7 NOSTOP from 3 weeks now.. xD

The only things i'm sure is that they flagged me for sure, cause as i told i lvl bots 19/06 and got banned 23/06, take a break, lvl bots 13/07 and get banned 17/07, when no one of my friends got,so i hope just i did not get reported by some of my acquaintances, even if no one know the name of my bots..

On English/Usa server i can't for sure bot like i do, i know that guys, i should have title the post "i got flagged, what i should do", ill thx you and the other for the tips and reply, i'll gonna take a break for this months, probly just change mac ip stuff ecc and get a new credit card and paypal (not with my name xD), and hope that's enought, anyway ill gonna get a new computer soon, i whould had got one on september for the new haswell-e 6 core "hope cheap" CPU, let's see if i'm forced to buy something before..

Wish to know how blizzard employer works.. cuz this i so weird in my opinion, at least my server is..

And well, in my opinion they always KNOW who is a bot and who not, act like "human" and "randomize" will not save you if they got you, i think they ban account that are sure BOTTING on make gold purpose just cause they know people will get new one and give to blizzard more money..and "close" an eye or two on the player that are veteran, playing for more then 2 years and pay subscription all the months, with their 12939123 achive that make them think "if i ban him say goodbye to them for ever", that's why on account that looks of someone that play wow for real even if he bot 24/7 they give 72 hours and not perma instantly like what happen to account with 500 achiv point xD this is oblivius to all i suppose, but that's the true, they ban when it's the better option for them business or not?

All your tips are really nice and i gonna follow them with all the other i got there, thx =)
I guess i try change change Mac and Ip of the network card from software, cuz i have the network card "in" the mobo =)

 

Italian servers are maybe low-mid pop servers and blizz prolly does not assign a lot of staff members to it, but again with lower pop servers its far easier to see repeatable patterns. im on EU servers and i can say that they are relatevly ok for botting and better option than USA servers. As for tips, only thing is that i can add is to be careful during Sales as they are usually enforcing banwaves during them. My accounts were banned during first day of first sale this year, but that was due to me testing PQR/PE. I did manage to recover them and clear flag from them saying that they are stolen. Only other think regarding IP that i can think of is that Blizz can contact your ISP and ask them for IP info, but i dont think that they would go that far to actually do that.