Will you continue to bot after the announcement?

Being top DPS is only a matter of using the right skills in the right order. If you know that order, you can put it into a combat routine which is basically an advanced calculator. Botting reduces the time in between skills / cooldowns, etc. Mind you this is only speaking in the DPS sense and being a "Top Raider" is completely different since it involves things like honing your professions, glyphs and being intuitive in raiding.

 

You're funny bro. Bots can't possibly take into account proper timing to skills, and when to use them at the exact point you need them to on certain fights. It's literally impossible. The combat routine can't take those things into consideration.

 

It isn't about using skills and abilities in the right order. It's about timing. Saving your cooldowns, for certain points, in various fights, to maximize your damage. Your combat routine will never do that.

 

Literally impossible? People have made much more complex A.I. than what you deem impossible. Timing is simply a decision that is governed by a set of factors. The bot can very well be programmed to know these events, and when to manipulate them.

 

Lol.
One, small example. I do not need to explain myself further, as it is pointless....

Heroic siegecrafter blackfuse, doing the belts as a hunter(going up every single wave).

Are you telling me, that this combat routine, will be able to calculate, how slow/fast an add is being killed? If its slow, and may not die in time, will it pop a small dps cooldown just to make sure it kills it? If it's going to be killed within 4 seconds, will it be able to tell ahead of time, to save every cooldown you have?

It's going to be random, and will depend on your raids play ability, every single time.

Will it be able to disengage off of the belt at the proper moment every time, to avoid areas the fire is located in?

 

Superbad uses TimeToDie (Which calculates the mob hp and the current total dps on the target) so yes, it can very much calculate when it is dying.

 

I was commenting on your notion of "literally impossible". I was not talking about that CR in particular. However, everything you've said can be easily coded in. How slow/fast an add is being killed is simply a measure of how much damage per second the whole group is dealing to specific mobs. It is tough, I agree, but it is not "literally impossible".

If you honestly think that a bot cannot take into account these random events, how can the military even trust missile guidance systems which is a hundred times more complex than what you find "literally impossible"?

 

A combat routine handles the combat aspects. A botbase or plugin could be made to handle things outside that scope, things like moving to avoid fire or other bad things.

Short answer: If something can be programmed in a way that presents a challenge, then something can be programmed to complete that challenge. Anything you throw at it that could require a different reaction would be classed as a variable, now I'm not sure of your previous experience with programming (or there-based logic) but variables aren't an issue, at all.

So yes it is possible to do... But has it been perfected, maybe not yet.

You want a real world example? Have a look at a Googles self-driving cars.

 

Intelligent automation in video games is a lot easier than in the real world. Why? In games you have access to all information. Every variable for every object, and a set of defined rules for how things will act. For this reason you can code an AI that can act intelligently and make very smart choices. Is it easy? No, but it's certainly possible with enough time. You look at where honorbuddy is now from where glider was before it was shut down and it's night and day. The amount of things you can automate in the game now is pretty incredible.

 

Singular has this too.

Code:

public static bool IsStandingInBadStuff(this WoWUnit unit)
        {
            foreach (var obj in ObjectManager.GetObjectsOfType<WoWDynamicObject>())
            {
                if (obj.Caster != null && obj.Caster.IsValid && obj.Caster.IsHostile && unit.Location.Distance(obj.Location) <= obj.Radius)
                {
                    Logger.Write(Color.White, "^Yikes: {0} is standing in {1}", unit.SafeName(), obj.Name);
                    return true;
                }
            }
            return false;
        }

 

wtf? PvE takes skill? r u high bro?

 

Damn he got reckt in that argument

 

It's possible that a CR could do optimized DPS. It's also possible that HB could never run into a wall, get stuck, respond to a whisper with human intelligence, etc. But it doesn't because it's not perfect. HB has come a long way, and developers are making great things, but if you think that your CR is better than good players, then you are wrong. The AI isn't that good...

 

Not sure if anyone has seen this, but I have been around since vanilla, and I've used and (importantly) STOPPED, when I figured it was time to stop. This is an old post, which some of you who actually care about your account should considering reading:

You should not listen to any of the staff members here. They haven't given out a single clear answer yet, and what they said is something the government would say. They should be more engaged in the community, and answering any concerns raised, because seriously, that announcement is pure BS. I'm not saying reveal your hand, but at least give daily updates or something. At the end of the day, they're a business. They HAVE to open up their auth servers, or they're losing money every day since they have people on payroll, and expenses to grind out. If this is the last 30 days, they need to grind out all the money they can from us so they can exit successfully (no business in the world doesn't have a prepared exist strategy). With that said, I think what is really happening is that they have put this shit to rest (no seriously, I'll bet someone my entire gold amount on my BNET that the staff won't post anything about the warden for a few weeks, not even progressive info, because there isn't any). They're waiting on us. We are fucking botters. You know what I was thinking today? I finally geared up all my H warforges on my tank, and I was just dying to play, and I was thinking "Do I do it? Do I bot?" and it's really self control (fucking HB is more fucked up than heroin). I had to stop myself, and it's what the staff members don't want. They will closely watch the ban reports, and they will take out the false reports, and in about a month, when they have gathered enough information about what's going on, they will release a formal announcement.

Take previous experience as a precaution. Blizzard is sneaky as fuck, and it can happen at any time. And for all that are going "botted for 3 hours on DungeonBuddy, NO BAN ", please cut that shit out. You're not going to get banned, unless it's fucking obvious, but it will happen in MASS quantities, not just one fucking player who is too lazy to run a level 60 dungeon.

Can we start a group for HB addiction?

Hi my name is zero, and im a HB addict.

 

In a game like wow, where you execute a static rotation without having to take clever decisions, then yes, a machine is better than players because it can read and react much faster than human possible. But in a game like chess, that there is no pre-defined movements and there is always a decision to be made then a very clever and charismatic human can win the machine, but still is a very rare and unique phenomenon. 99% of humans will lose.

 

I'll have what bot you're having...

 

jesus fuck i lold

 

I bought the bot 1 day after that update, I just logged in-game with it opened but didn't use it. Is there any risk of it auto-detecting HB and banning you even if you didn't load/use any profile?

 

If HB is detected which they dont know yet atm, we will have to wait, then yes they can detect you by injecting it.

 

fml, thank you for replying