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    1. mansellboi

      mansellboi Community Developer

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      Okay guys im after your advice on a 500$ budget botting machine, obviously got a fair idea on what i want but i might be missing something, always nice to get other peoples options :) cheers
       
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      you cant
       
    3. mansellboi

      mansellboi Community Developer

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      Really? Im pretty sure you can
       
    4. frosticus

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      we have no idea what you are missing if we dont know what you are starting with.
       
    5. Nesox

      Nesox Moderator Staff Member Moderator Buddy Core Dev

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    6. mansellboi

      mansellboi Community Developer

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      dame nice!
       
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      ... you know that we don't need a gaming PC meaning that we don't need a 219$ GPU ... if you buy an intel CPU you don't even need to so that i3 could go to an i7 or i5 and spend some more on aSSD that would give you more speed(not really needed) and you don't need more then 8 G of RAM because swaping memory to your SSD would slow that much down
       
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      someone suggested a intel g3258 machine in some other thread.
      getting my setup tomorrow and i'll give feedback how it really works.
      (intel g3258, 2gb gpu, some hdd, 8gb ddr3, b85 mainboard, case and pwr supply)

      maybe it's 250€ (+50€ gpu, had one) thrown into trash, or maybe it's worth.
       
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      The Intel G3258 is an Intel Pentium Processor made as an anniversary edition that allowed "low-end" users to Overclock. For the price it comes with and the overclock-ability of this little beast it's a pure win (if you so do decide to overclock it). The heat deduced from this Haswell architecture CPU is so small that even a stock cooler should be able to give it up a few notches on the VCore and Multipliers without causing any severe damage to the processor. And better yet, with some of todays B85 motherboards you are actually able to unlock "the power of overclocking", which in past was only possible with higher end motherboards such as the Z versions.

      For a simple botting machine, it should suit you well. But there is one thing you should take note of: The CPU is only a dual core and it does NOT support hyper-threading (one core = one thread. hyper-threading allows for twice the threads of those of your cores, though it is only virtual/logical and not physical like a core itself, it still provides the processor with some extra Oomph!), so running multiple bots at the same time with this processor is probably unlikely.
       
    12. iamnotme

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      Proof?
       
    13. frodzet

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      @iamnotme What proof are you searching? The Proof that it doesn't have Hyper-Threading, the proof that it is only a dual core, the proof that it is unlocked and can be overclocked, the proof that it has only been of lately that manufactures have decided to unlock lower-budget motherboards? Tell me the proof you are searching and i will provide them for you :)
       
    14. MaxMuster

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      People People People...the first Question is: How many bot should run on this PC? 5? 10? 15? 20? or what?

      in my opinion the best cpu is a Xeon 1230v3 or 1231.
       
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      The first question is: Why would you spend money on a botting PC at the current state of the game?
       
    16. DX123

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      How many sessions are you looking to run on this machine? If your running one you don't need much of anything. For botting there is absolutely no need for a monster video set up. And there is no need for anything beyond 4gb of memory if your not running multiple sessions.

      Really comes down to what your trying to do.
       
    17. brainAbuddy

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      why do you go with an xeon ?
      it's not like we need the extra protection the xeon cpus have. and I found that that thing cost around the 250 euro here in the netherlands and a i5 4690 cost like 230$
      and runs max on 3.9 so it's cheap and faster.
      yes you maybe need a newer version of motherboard, but it's not like you will spend 100 euro more.
      EDIT: and you also need to buy a GPU. I do recommend getting one when you get more then 5-7 clients running

      and maybe you could find an older i7 yes those older versions are slower but they have hyperthread and I'm not sure, but I think more cores(virtual or not) are better then the speed.

      please correct me if I'm wrong I'm not(yet) a hardware nerd and I'm starting to learn
       
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    18. iamtooruff

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      As for testing the g3258 budget PC:
      It's currently running 5 wow+5 hb @ 4.2ghz oc...dungeonbuddy raf group leveling.

      But that is as much as it can handle (ofc maybe 1 or 2 more with proper tweaks...)

      Got the wow itself down to 5% cpu usage but hb takes like 15% each.
       
    19. MaxMuster

      MaxMuster Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      You know that a Xeon is the same as i7 without GPU?
      On my Xeon 1230v2 (with 16 GB Ram and a GTX 460) i can run over 18 Sessions. I dont think that you can do the same with the i5 4690.

      And with the right Motherboard you can set the Xeon to 3,9 Ghz @ All Cores.


      Benchmark Tests:

      Intel Xeon E3-1230 v3 @ 3.30GHz: 9,377 Points
      Intel Core i5-4690 @ 3.50GHz: 7,617 Points

      https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
       
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    20. Jiniix

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      Obviously more cores = more better, when it comes to handling many bots, but a Xeon is architecturally very close to an i7, tho calling it 'the same' hurts my PC soul.
      Xeons go through much more stress testing to ensure 24/7 stability. i7's are expected to be used around 4-6 hours a day. Xeons also have more advanced instruction sets, which are completely useless to HB and WoW.
      Also good job comparing an i5 to an "i7" on a multithread optimized benchmark - again irrelevant for WoW and HB.
      The Xeon is 23% better in a perfect world. In the real world it will be less. WoW sucks at handling the cores it's got available.
       

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