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    Discussion in 'Discussions (no Ban Reports here)' started by gfarmzz, Feb 22, 2015.

    1. gfarmzz

      gfarmzz Member

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      How important is it to re-install WoW or the virtual machine you run WoW on after a ban? If Blizzard really hates you and has banned your entire IP before and would do anything they can to shut you down, can they detect the previous accounts that have been played on your WoW installation?
       
    2. wtfmofo

      wtfmofo New Member

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      You will get people who say its important and others like me who say its not. Nobody knows for sure.
       
    3. happyfriet

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      highly doubt it does anything - but hey, you can't harm anything by doing it right.
       
    4. Tekken

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      Who knows ... I have had 3 accounts banned ... 1 was from the friend that introduced me to the game and was back from Vanilla , he gave it to me when he quit the game and I used it to bot heavily, cause of the age of the account I got the ban hammer reversed twice, last time I didn't even try to get it reversed... my main account which I do not bot on has never been touch , of course all on the same machine, bots running whilst I have been raiding ... so who knows
       
    5. kize

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      From my Experience you PC/WOW will get marked after a ban right now (EU), causing a more frequent check. Fresh WOD Acc got banned today (third party software) with kicks @lvl99. some days ago main acc banned from same pc/wow.
      of cause i could be a unlucky guy, but i think they marked my machine right after first banned acc.
       
    6. gfarmzz

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      How does Blizzard mark your PC? Do they go by Hardware ID or Mac address or WoW installation ID or something else?
       
    7. Pineapple Lion

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      I can say in my experience that if I reinstall my VMWares the bots seem to last longer, but then again, I do ware a tinfoil hat so the aliens don't snoop on my dreams, so it could just be a coincidence.
       
    8. kize

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    9. Aion

      Aion Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      The answer is very, very simple.

      If you were working for Blizzard and aimed with fighting botters, would you use completely legal methods like these I mentioned, to identify and link together all the wow accounts, ran from a certain wow installation?

      Then strengthen the ban flag for those, which are spending 12-14hours daily in dungeon like Gundrak (So they are obviously dungeon-botting), and leave intact those, which certainly not botting - like having random behaviors here and there.
       
    10. Drdre

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      World of Warcraft is not using registry as far as i know. All they can store is stored in your World of Warcraft folder. And if you want to be safe, just copy newly downloaded wow folder somewhere else on computer or even better to another drive, and after you get ban just delete old wow folder and copy new instead from your external drive.
      This will help only if blizzard really flagging your wow client on computer somehow and will not help if you IP is flagged.

      P.S. tbh people becomes paranoic as fk, nothing has changed in blizzard methods against botters, its still only report -> flagged -> monitored by gm (sometimes not) -> ban if bot.
      Lets be honest, If blizzards wants warden to easily detect hb - it will detect and we all will be screwd, but honorbuddy giving them money everyday, thats it
       
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      is it saver to use the combat bot only for couple hours a day only ? then run it hold day dungeons ect
       
    12. gfarmzz

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      If we want to play it safe after a ban, do we need to reinstall the entire virtual machine, or just uninstall/reinstall WoW?
       
    13. cg1203im2

      cg1203im2 Community Developer

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      absolutely wrong!
      they use the registry. proof:
      Open your registry editor (WinKey+r, type regedit, enter)
      navigate to
      HKEY_CURRENT_USER
      >Software
      >Blizzard Entertainment
      >Battle.Net

      You will find a lot of Cryptic Folders. All these Folders are the accounts ever used on this PC.
      How to test it?
      Easy. delete this folder.
      Log in with 1 wow account. it will be at this position again. Encrypted again.
      Log in with another account. it will be added again.
      Repeat this with all zccounts you have, and all will be there again.
      If you log in with one account twice, there won't be 2 entries for this account. Just the first 1.
      Blizzard is using your registry to identify multiple accounts on 1 mashine! thats a fact, as proven above.

      You may say thats worth nothing. could be an internet cafe pc where many ppl play. thats true. it could be. but if blizz sees there are 99% of these in reg stored accounts "fraudulent" (bots, hacks, goldselling), they give a shit. internet cafe or university... that pc is mainly used to break their TOS.
       
    14. cameronmc88

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      What if you grab the WoW client folder from a PC that's never been used for botting and never had a ban, so you have a fresh copy of WoW install with no registry touched or Battle.net program installed either.

      Laptop with WoW Client that's never been botted on or banned > Copied to External HDD > Copied to Fresh PC.
       
    15. Aion

      Aion Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      This have been widespread with the Diablo 3 botting in the last couple of years, people were just copying whole D3 installs to fresh comps or VMs, but the ban rate had not lowered.

      Some of the people, who are around since more than 12-15 years, could remember, that Blizzard used to store the real cd key within their game installations - for ex. Diablo 2.

      So it do not require rocket science for us to assume that with similar methods, Blizzard could still identify or "label" every unique WoW installation, and if we do intend to start on clean, the worst idea could be to copy our old WoW install folder to a clean system.
       
    16. Maelnum

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      Why not just install WoW on one PC, install on another, make MD5 checksums on both and compare.

      If they are same then that would be the proof that nothing is stored inside installation files, just game data.
       
    17. cameronmc88

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      Very true, but I was saying a fresh WoW client that's never been touched.. besides installed on my laptop. No WoW account has ever logged in to that client or even the battle.net launcher itself to download the client, so there can't be an account or CD key attached to the folder, I never used one with the Client what so ever.
       

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