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    Discussion in 'Discussions (no Ban Reports here)' started by Cakey, May 14, 2015.

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    1. Cakey

      Cakey New Member

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      Orc Chat Peonat 16:58:22
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      Orc Chat Peonat 16:59:12
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      Orc Chat Peonat 17:02:23
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      Orc Chat Peonat 17:04:23
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      Orc Chat Peonat 17:05:21
      You have been connected with Qumartaj.
      Qumartajat 17:05:23
      Howdy there. Game Master Qumartaj here. How's it going today?
      youat 17:05:26
      I threw a wish in the wellDon't ask me I'll never tell ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪ ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪Hey I just met youAnd this is crazy ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪ ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪But I have a question for you!
      youat 17:06:04
      Hello sir, so today over Skype I received an interesting message. I'd like to know if you can clarify some questions for me.
      youat 17:06:44
      yo[4:53:59 PM] ~: so i jsut foudn somehting out[4:54:04 PM] ~: I knwo why i got away[4:54:07 PM] ~: Scot Free[4:54:13 PM] Chris: ?[4:54:14 PM] ~: I didnt "Bot"[4:54:22 PM] ~: I used honorbuddy only for the combat routines[4:54:28 PM] ~: which techinically isnt against the ToS[4:54:45 PM] ~: you used Garrison bots[4:54:48 PM] ~: tahts why you got banned
      youat 17:08:13
      That's ugly sorry, basically he was saying how he used Honorbuddy to bot rotations and that's why he was able to avoid the banwave but me, which I did use to bot garrison cause it is tedious, was banned for the bot movement. Do you by any way have the ability to answer if this is indeed why? He said he had talked to a GM said "I'm rotation botting" and the GM said something like "OK, and.."
      Qumartajat 17:08:45
      No, I have no ability to confirm or deny this.
      youat 17:12:34
      OK, but there's also many others on fourms such as "The Buddy Forum" and "Code Deception" that are claiming that they also got away from this banwave because they never botted a task such as gathering or other. So if I put the pieces together your "Confirm nor deny" would 'confirm' the theory. But say it's all just chance that some got banned and some didn't could we see bans for users that are using the bot to do just rotations or that didn't get hit by the wave. I intend to come back to WoW
      youat 17:13:50
      After the ban and play it as it's intended to be played. But I'm debating coming back to a biased game where users are allowed to bot some things and not others. For instance (You can't answer this) but soapbox rotations has not been software detected and they are barely any bans from their software.
      Qumartajat 17:14:25
      Well, you know I can't make any comments about this, so did you have any questions for me that I can address?
      youat 17:15:04
      Why can't you comment on this? If I email you guys will I receive the same answer from the "appeal" 'ROBOT' ?
      youat 17:15:43
      I'm just looking for answers about questions that cannot actually support the botting community or developers I'm curious for my own game experience in the future.
      Qumartajat 17:16:03
      In the future, I simply recommend not botting.
      Qumartajat 17:17:49
      When it comes to our practices on removing bots and other exploitative third party software users, we do not provide information, as any information provided could (and most likely would) be used to continue exploitative action that we do not currently detect.
      youat 17:18:17
      I don't intend on botting in the future. I am curious as to why my friend would not have been banned. I want to play WoW in the future but if it's a biased game where these users play with the bots and I don't and are topping the charts, getting into my guild raids without actually knowing anything about the game how's that something I want to do in the future? I'm just looking if action will be taken against the users who use the bot for rotations as it was taken against users who bot gather
      youat 17:18:33
      So you just admitted that you CAN'T detect honorbuddy....
      youat 17:18:44
      or CANT detect one of the bots.
      Qumartajat 17:18:51
      No, your inferences are taking rather generous leaps in logic.
      youat 17:19:20
      Sir, you just said "we do not currently detect."
      youat 17:19:37
      You've just answered a MUCH WORSE question that I'M NOT asking ...
      Qumartajat 17:19:44
      At this point this conversation is over. You're fishing for information, and I will not be providing it.
      Qumartajat 17:19:45
      Good day.
      Orc Chat Peonat 17:19:48
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      Edit: GM may specify that they cannot detect ROTATIONS but can detect MOVEMENT BASED BOTTING
       
    2. Xarian

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      English must not be your first language, cuz everything you thought he said, he did not say.

      He said if he provided you information it would help people exploit the game in ways that they are not currently detection, this is pure logic. If he told you how they detected HB, its rather simple to avoid it, duuh?

      He didnt confirm or deny anything, he tried to explain something to you with basic logic, and you werent capable of comprehending what he said.
       
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      Edit: Previous guy said it.
       
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      Joined today, first post, no screen shots? Obviously don't understand English at all. You most likely edited what the GM said. Get lost
       
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      Why would someone give a GM the name of the botting program they used in hopes of the GM telling them that its not detected? It seems very counter productive.
       
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      Aion Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      This was your point only and in this chat, the GM never made even a single comment on it, sorry pal!

      The bold green colored test is purely out of the context, which is just an example of hypothetical situation, with intention to illustrate the example to you.
       
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      Added SS

      I wanted an answer to why my friend didn't get banned. ?
       
    9. Cakey

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      I suppose in the chat we used a lot of "WHAT IFS" (At least I did) It's a possibility that I could have made this conclusion.
       
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      I like that dog's hair.
       
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      Aion Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      No hard feelings.

      Everyone here want to discover what is "detected", and what is not, as soon as possible!
       
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      luck... you botted at a time when they detected and at that time your friend didnt it's that simple.
       
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      Hawker Well-Known Member Buddy Core Dev

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      The GM is a non-technical person and has no idea what mechanism was used to detect Honorbuddy. Its a mistake to read too much into an unguarded comment or two.
       
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      PLEASE stop spamming GM's. Doing so only makes them more aware of us and MORE of a problem they have to deal with.
      thread closed.

      first rule of fight club, is that you dont talk about fight club.
       
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