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  • [PAID] Reflux - Holy Paladin

    Discussion in 'Paladin' started by Stampe, Sep 19, 2015.

    1. Stampe

      Stampe New Member Buddy Store Developer

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      The default settings shipping with the routine is pretty much all over the place, i know :/ I need to redo the default values
      and i hope i can get on that today or tomorrow.

      Im going to add a function that saves a backup of your current settings when you load new ones (just a failsafe for when you have forgotten
      to save your current ones). I hope to get on this asap! :)

      Sorry for the late reply.. my gf wanted some time with me yesterday :D
       
    2. Exite

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      Wow could you share your settings? In pm or here dosent matter, you sound like you know what you are talking about! Would love to try this CR to it's ful potensial!
       
    3. Stampe

      Stampe New Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Alot of nice updates incoming! The beacon logic is getting overhauled and will be quicker and more reliable. Adding support for Daybreak and much more. :)
       
    4. WSFrazier

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      I will give this a try this weekend, everytime raid night comes up, I never have a chance to mess around with CRs due to getting home late from work. This weekend I swear.

      Is not using radiance normal? My current CR w/ TuanHA loves to spam that.

      My guild is progressing a lot faster than they expected, and asked why I was using SH instead of EF :/ Can't wait to try your recommendations and tweak from there.
       
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    5. Lulk1989

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      Radiance shouldn't be on your bars at all.
       
    6. WSFrazier

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      Wow, guess that goes to show how bad TuanHA's really is. Good thing my guild has no other hpallys or knows how to play one, or I would be bitched at by now lol.
       
    7. TheHammer

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      Well, i decided to not come back to my old account and stick to the new one, even with my old one back now, as Blizzard keep tracks of accounts that were banned at least once and check them from time to time (confirmed by a GM). So my pally is almost 100 and eager to test this CR :D

      Anyone using it on Mythic enviroment?
       
    8. anubite

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      how are people finding selfless healer build, getting mixed results.
      not saying it is the routine just getting better results with eternal flame and that is with rolling both sh builds from online viewer.
      boss mechanics wise very good :)
      your a credit stamp :) need more developers coming to hb doing new routines like this. :)
       
    9. Stampe

      Stampe New Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Thanks! :)

      I normally use EF build and its slightly ahead of SH on the HPS side.
      SH with beacon of insight is pretty fun tho :) and doing rather good HPS.
      Think 3 SH Flash of Light on a BoI target (+40% more healing) thats one massive heal :D

      But EF is "easier" and often more HPS. Atleast up til' Mythic. After that i havent done calcs :/

      Im hoping to get another update out really soon with some tweaks, new additions, new and improved beacon logic and more.. (Next up its time to organize and do some piffing up on the GUI)
       
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    10. Blacknr1

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      Need a bit better use of the LoD proc. I don't want it to be used exclusively on either HR or HL. There should be an intelligent prio meaning that we use the proc on HL unless we need it for HR.
      Aiming to never use a normal HR but having the proc ready for hasted HR when needed.
      If it is not hasted by the proc it takes too long to cast. And if we set the treshold higher to be sure to heal in time we waste too much mana, since it is our most expensive heal.

      So we could put a treshold like: Use Lod on HL unless x players are under y. (start saving the procs if raid gets low)
      Next: Use Holy Radiance if A players are under B and LoD is procced.

      Now we achieve to use hasted HL on singletargets when needed and if noone needs we build illuminated shields. But if more ppl starts to get low we stop single target HL and use the proc for HR.

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      About the hps or total output the class trinket makes all the difference. As soon you get that, this is the most powerful build.
      But also the most difficult to micromanage, thus we need an automated routine to handle that to get the full potential.
      Enjoy instant 600k crit heals with massive illuminated shields :)
       
    11. Lulk1989

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      Selfless healer pulls miles ahead when you have your class trinket. Not sure if you've got it. Shock > Judge > Flash OP
       
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    12. Stampe

      Stampe New Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Are you mixing up Light of Dawn with Infusion procs? :)

      Yes, there will be a place for HR, but only when HS is coming of CD so it can dump HR, get Daybreak and pop HS for alot of aoe heals. (Prefered with Infusion on the HR)
      HR should never be used without that combo as the HPS is pure crap, its just a waste of mana :/
      But in combo with that its okey. Otherwise use the IoL proc on FoL or HL.

      One thing with paladins.. our AoE healing is crap! Spamming HR/LoD for aoe is a waste of mana. Let the guilds resto shammys/droods do the aoe. We are single target, high slam healers.
      And saving IoL is not possible without halting the routine more or less, as "all" of our heals uses the proc (HL, FoL) you cant do much if you want to wait for the right moment to use it.

      You can do some nifty things in SH build with it to save Infusion until you got 3 SH then do a huge FoL heal on someone. And if you got the Insight beacon talent, just pop it on the person before slamming
      that bad boy of a heal.. it will do MONSTER healing.

      But im currently working on a HR / Daybreak thing, that i hope will push pretty ok HPS. And that new algorithm also checks when HS comes of CD, how many currently is dmg and stuff like that. :)


      I've got Libram yes :) But on HC i've had better HPS with EF than SH.. i often push way to much overhealing in SH. Sure, overhealing is good if you got alot of mastery for the illum shield. But
      there is a line when to much overhealing is healing and time gone to waste. I dont have that issue in EF on HC
      (thats the case for Me, and perhaps not the case for others. My guild outgears HC atm, when doing Myth tho, SH is on top! :))
       
    13. Blacknr1

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      yes ofc :) Was distracted... But thanks for understanding
       
    14. Blacknr1

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      Another idea is to monitor illuminated shields time left. So when they are about to fall of we fire LoD regardless.
      Thus utilizing the cummulative build-up of the shields.
       
    15. Stampe

      Stampe New Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Ofc.. :) A similar thing of what you wrote there will be available in the routine shortly. That will do a bursty aoe combo for low/medium healing needed and/or shield stacking :)
       
    16. Stampe

      Stampe New Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Update:
      I just noticed that casting the Eye on Iskar isnt 100% reliable in the current release version.. im on it and will have a fix in the next release!
       
    17. WSFrazier

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      Finally got around to playing with your recommended SH build settings, and a lot better than the settings I was trying to use. HPS is up and mana really isn't that much of an issue. I was only able to test it in LFR and a bad pug normal run. Will try it with my guilds HC arch come Monday. Thanks a bunch, really liking the routine so far, seems to play a lot more human like compared to anything else, and not just 'padding' meters.

      I might try EF since some it seems worth a shot according to some guys in here. Is there an EF build uploaded on the settings browser?
       
    18. nivitro

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      Yes there is an EF build uploaded on the settings browser by mcdeman.


      I trialed this amazing routine, tested it on lvl100 character with EF and with lvl60+ character.
      Both healing like a boss, this routine feels different than the others, cant really explain how, but it feels damn amazing.

      I suggest you to get this and help the Dev to make this even better. I will definately buy this and support.

      Stampe, I hope you keep on goin with this and make the Legion expac a blast for us!
      My wish is that you just focus to keep this THE BEST holy paladin routine for PvE and PvP.
       
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    19. Stampe

      Stampe New Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Thank you kindly!

      My plan is to keep this on the top during Legion! I hope to get every little thing sorted and just push Talent/Spell updates and concentrate 110% on boss logics and stuff like that..
      So until Legion comes out i got lots of work to do :)
      Prio now is to get a stable base with HFC boss logics, and the routine to do the right "human" step at the right time. Like you said, padding the meters can be done quite easily but getting
      a routine to do the "right" thing and make it "think like a player" can be a bit tricky.. and thats why i started this project.. :) I love the challenge!

      Next version will have Selective Group Healing incl Hotkey function (ofc with ingame HUD :D) and some other bits and pieces :) So stay tuned!

      Oh.. ive also been asked if im gonna do more paladin specs.. yes.. i will have a stand alone protection one also.. with the same goal as this one (as far as i can get with logics and stuff (taunting etc is so situational))..
      And my goal as always; keep it coroutine / methods and NO LUA hooks/macros ingame :)
       
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    20. Stampe

      Stampe New Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Update:
      Next release will have some more options, Auto Backup of your settings, Group Healing with Hotkey support and some other bits and pieces :)

      EDIT: I Hope i can get on tooltips for all the settings, or somekind of manual on what everything do, soon :)
       
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