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    Discussion in 'Archives' started by Darkcollins, Jun 15, 2011.

    1. Darkcollins

      Darkcollins New Member

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      Find botters? I know there has been numerous post on this but recently I was Permanently banned/terminated(hehe). I email Trion asking to show logs on why I was banned(I was semi afk watching my bot before the ban so I know a GM didn't whisper me) they replied with-" we are unable to continue to address your concern without including our legal counsel". Something tells me what there doing might not be legal? Anyone with program knowledge might be able to shed some light into this for me?
       
    2. Darkcollins

      Darkcollins New Member

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      pertinent logs maybe?
       
    3. HB129M74

      HB129M74 New Member

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      Have you ever been reported before, or got a tell from a gm
       
    4. desertracer225

      desertracer225 New Member

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      Did you also buy plat? Usually they way they find these things is with patterns, you made a left hand turn at the exact same loc for 4 hours. That kinda deal. Same goes with spell order and timing. You cast the same spells, same order, same timing (even with a hotbutton youll be off sometime somewhere or use a random skill. chat, that kinda thing.

      on most mmorpgs using 3rd party programs to alter or inhance gameplay past what a normal player can do, is bannable not usually curb stomped tho heh. If you read most hte EULAs for these games, even using google or a website like allakhazam (Zam) to research quests is in violation.

      It probably has more to do with coin and selling or buying for perma banning. Usually, thats from my experience in EQ, SWG and WoW. Either that or they just hate you =)
       
    5. Timothy Carter Jr

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      The client (your end) sends out and receives information from the server...

      Basically, In short...

      You run Around, which changes your X, Y, Z... this is only a few bytes of data.

      Your friends by you, are also running around... They are uploading theyr XYZ, and Downloading yours...vice versa.

      OTHER information is also computed via the Server, and some by the Client.


      Now, MOST mmo's have anti hack software on the server side of things, and possibly the client side...

      For example,

      If you used a Speed Hack, Ok, 500% run speed is impossible... Red Flag you. Now, obviously, there are coincidences. So, if you get so many 'Red Flags', they will ban you for..speed hacks.


      The BIGGEST thing that people are getting busted for, is other players and/or GM's watching you.


      Sure, I can "report" you... but maybe you arnt botting.... I'm just a guy who you stole his loot from.

      But, if 5 People report you... ok, they will review LOGS. (Location, time played, etc).

      It is best to bot in unpopular areas... and if you do... constantly check your screen for tells.


      If you play for 97 Straight hours, without skipping a beat... ya, chances are, you're botting.


      As far as legalities go, theres not much you can do about it minus taking them to court, and having their records subpoena'd.

      It can easily be won in court, as they would have to prove that your account was infact using a third party bot program which resulted in the loss of your account.

      However, I am sure in the TOS/AUP, it says that even if hacked, your account is still your responsibility... Which makes it easy for them to prove..

      So even if you're from the USA...and someone from China uses the bot because they hacked your account...and your account got banned.... It still falls onto you.
       
    6. desertracer225

      desertracer225 New Member

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      And most ToS/EULAs have that nice little "we reserve the right to do whatever the hell we want so suck it" clause (yes i know its alittle more formal and legal sounding them mine :p ... )
       
    7. Darkcollins

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      Thanks for all the responses. If I had the time and money I probably would take them to court just for the hell of it but when it all boils down it was my fault lol.
       
    8. seafunk

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      EULA's are completely against legal principles here in Germany btw. At least when it comes to selling/buying gold and using 3rd party software this has been successfully used as a base to get an account restored. But we don't get around visiting a lawyer and having him write a long letter at the very least.
       

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