I see alot of requests asking for better PvP or PvE ability in the CC, aside from the targetting speed thing alot of this is suggesting 'better' rotations The issue with this however is that the more the CC is written for how the class works right now, the more it will break as blizzard change the class. I cant help but feel that rather than pre-writing in spell priority orders and conditions for casting spells the ultimate 'nirvana' on CC writing would be a CC that has none of that. It would simply enumerate the spell book, have all the conditionals that say you have already implemented and allow you to write your own rules which can themselves be imported/exported as class profiles, if it went this far then there wouldnt even need to be a CC per class. If your complaint was then that 'it doesnt use this x spell in x situation' the answer would be to change or add to the class profile so that it did But even thinking about it, i think its a massive undertaking to make such a thing.. people asking the bot to perform to the standard of a FL healer and making astute decisions dont really have an understanding of how computer code works, the CC cannot make any decision that it hasnt in advanced been programmed to reconise and handle and that means it will never be as good as a human player because noone can really write a CC to handle every possible scenario But then I also think that such an undertaking should maybe not be done by a CC writer because it would essentially be replacing the CC design model
I'd like some not dismount to heal and dont interrupt cc casts like cyclone. Also the ability to switch to bear form and not have it broken buy the cc trying to heal
Zeewolf after reading your reply I have to come to the conclusion you have actually some very good point there.
Feral Cat PVE Code: (Priority) 1. [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=33876"]Mangle[/URL] keep up 2. [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=5217"]Tiger's Fury[/URL] everytime it's up 3. [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=50334"]Berserk[/URL] everytime it's up 4. [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=5221"]Shred[/URL] if [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=16864"]Omen of Clarity[/URL] procs 5. [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=1079"]Rip[/URL] keep up with 5 combo points 6. [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=1822"]Rake[/URL] keep up 7. [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=52610"]Savage Roar[/URL] keep up 8. [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=5221"]Shred[/URL] for Rip extensions & combo points 9. [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=22568"]Ferocious Bite[/URL] with 5 points (when target is -25%) In Balance PVE, we use Insect Swarm Moonfire Sunfire Starsurge Wrath Starfire. Code: 1. Apply DoTs Stage 1: Spam cast Wrath until you have the [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=48518"]Eclipse (Lunar)[/URL] buff. Stage 2: Spam cast Starfire for the duration of the Eclipse (Lunar) buff. Stage 3: Once the Eclipse (Lunar) buff expires, continue to spam cast Starfire until you have the [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=48517"]Eclipse (Solar)[/URL] buff. Stage 4: Spam cast Wrath for the duration of the Eclipse (Solar) buff. By the end of stage 4, when the Eclipse (Solar) buff expires, continue spamming Wrath and begin Stage 1 again. Be sure to cast Starsurge every time it's up, and at the beginning of the encounter, cast Wrath/Starfire (after applying Insect Swarm/Moonfire) before casting Starsurge, so that you can apply [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=48506"]Earth and Moon[/URL] and increase the damage of Starsurge. Some tips to maximize your damage: When you reach Lunar or Solar eclipse, recast Moonfire/Sunfire (depending on eclipse) to proc [URL="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=61346"]Nature's Grace[/URL]. Use Sunfire for Solar Eclipse, and Moonfire for Lunar Eclipse .
1. Not trying to switch to cat form while in a vehicle (noticed this a lot in trying to convert your Argent Tournament profiles to Horde) - spams a message (in game) that "Can't cast that now" (or something like that) 2. Not trying to (self)heal and move - would start casting a heal spell, then run a step or two, then try to cast the spell again, then run a step or two... looks REALLY botty and doesn't get the healing done 3. Checking if the mob it is fighting dies, and if so loot it's corpse (thereby bypassing HB's built in, slow, "find lootable corpses" logic) if there was only 1 mob.... auto-instant-loot ftw
FPS, sorry to ask this here, but are you thinking to make a another Warrior CC or tweak yours ??. because we realy miss a good Warr CCfor questing and for instace m8.
Heres another request that is specific to Night Elf Druids. Please give us the ability to escape by using Shadowmeld + Flightform and immediately ascend X amount of height for Y amount of time before releasing the code and resuming normal CC behaviour. Hopefully this will work with Gatherbuddy2 too, allowing you to escape losing PVP fight or overwhelming forces of NPCs.
As of now theres no even decent working PvP feral/resto CC's. So if you can have it work very well for Pvp that would be perfect
All the druid CC atm dont have any raid support. Its pretty far into cata and alot of us are raiding in firelands. I would love to see a CC that is mainly centered around that. Gilroy has made some awsome pally and priest CCs that do really well in raids and selective healing. I would love to see alot of customization especially with tank or raid healing. Which tank or person to stack lifebloom on. Even option to only heal a select few targets. Ex( Be a raid healer and only stacking lifebloom on main tank) Customization like that would be very welcomed. An option to burst heal raid or tank or be sustained raid or tank healer. Also an option to regen mana on fights where your healing targets dont take alot of damage. Logic for wild growth would rock. Main thing is to implement logic that would make druid healer conserve more mana and not overheal soo much.
** I just wanted to correct my statment about no druid CC having raid support. Im pretty sure some have lazy raider support but I just do t think they work really well in a dynamic raid environment. A raid CC with healing behavior tree logic would go a long way especially since DRUiD is #1 HEALer in cata.
As I wrote in your original thread: Presets And maybe a little cleaner ui. Like a Tab for Noobkin / Feral DPS / Feral Tank / Restoration / Advanced greetz Weischbier Edit: ahhh I forgot - an AllInOne maybe?^^ this would cause less maintaing to you I think. Maintaining 6 or more CCs is hell
Now that I've had a chance to level a toon up a bit with your current Druid CC (lvl 47 so far), I do have one suggestion in particular: There needs to be two health meters for casting healing (rejuvination, regrowth...), 1) during combat and 2) outside of combat. I say that because if I'm in an active fight, then I want to wait until I need to heal (<35% or whatever it's set at) before I cast my heal. If however, I have killed my target and no longer in combat, I would certainly think it's a much better choice to 'top off' my health with a HOT before heading into the next battle at something like 55% health. It's the same thing after Rezzing... since my health isn't 'low', it doesn't attempt to top it off before running off towards it's first target. Oh... and as someone else mentioned earlier - Obviously we're a healing class. We shouldn't be eating food to gain health unless we're low on mana. Great job overall once I got past the 'Entanglements don't agro anymore' level of 10 or so... Thank you! 'Al'
My druid is now up to lvl 66 with just part time questing so he's doing well so far. I already have a lvl 1 druid that I created to ensure I got the name I thought of... that toon will be running with this CC from the start once it's ready for use.
incorporate natures grasp on a cd burn cycle for Feral PvPness......i havent had the chance to really compare CC's other than ok this one isnt doin it this session wth, ima finish this post on HB Forum..I look forward to seeing the new CC.
A Raid CC. Seeing as there isn't one out (Haven't tested yours nor hazz's in an instance yet so can't comment on those) But a Raid specific section for Resto would be worth money (for me personally anyway)
use the rotation for feral dps and feral tank from ILoveAnimals v2.5 as it is nearly perfect in both aspects of feral, and my only complaint is that with warriors be able to talent it, druids dont need to mangle in certain raid comps. I would like an option to turn off mangle in the rotation for anything else than a filler for dps and not for the debuff on the target. Other than that, the ILoveAnimals feral CC works PERFECT and if you can copy it with more options to allow the user to config it would be amazing. I tank and dps firelands, including heroics with this CC.
Didn't read through all the posts, but here are my cents. I play feral druid on a daily basis and I've used it for farming, pvp'ing and I've also levelled quite a good share of druids. If the target is just a normal non-elite mob it should never use Rip as fero bite is much better and will in most cases kill the mob or close to that. It should take advantage of the Predator's Swiftness buff - you rarely need any other heals than the occational instant healing touch. It shouldn't wait until below 40% to use it if it's instant though - you don't lose much dps time from an instant heal and back to cat form, so it's not bad to do an instant Healing Touch when you're at 80-85'ish % or lower. Thorns and Nature's Grasp are both really good to help with adds. Maybe cast thorns -> bear form, or if there's only 3 mobs then cast thorns while you're in caster form after an instant heal. So Predator's Switftness proc -> Insta Healing Touch -> Thorns -> Cat Form. Bear form shouldn't be used unless it's 3+ adds or if one of the targets are elite. Swipe cat form is never an option. Cat form is good even at killing 3 mobs at a time, but not with swipe - and here's why: The faster you kill of 1 target, the less dmg you'll be taking. Also, swipe gives no combo points which means no instant healing touch. Use Tiger's Fury whenever it's ready as the cooldown is so low that it'd be a waste to save it for adds. When you get King of the Jungle, you should only use Tiger's Fury when low on energy as it'll restore some, and that would be wasted if you already have full energy. Berserk should be saved for adds though. It's really good in bear form when you have a lot of adds - although DON'T use it while Frenzied Regenration is up, as you'll have no rage to use Mangle. Frenzied Regeneration instantly pops you to 15% of your max hp plus it increases your max hp - so there's really no need to use it before 5-10% (depending on how fast it reacts. The ability doesn't have GCD so it can be pressed instantly whenever needed). Since you will be quite low, it's great to use Survival Instincts at the same time (or barkskin if you don't have SI yet), then Frenzied Regen should get your health up quite good. This also means that SI should be saved for this emergency (or barkskin if you haven't learned SI yet). In bearform it's great to do some aoe, so spam them Swipe and Thrash (hi-lvl) and mangle when Swipe is on CD. Another great tip is checking if Glyph of Regrowth is present - and if it is, use regrowth instead of healing touch on the instant procs if you're health is below 50%. Ofc, if the regrowth hot buff is already present, use HT. Logic somewhat like this: Code: If Me.health < 85 Then If Me.Health < 50 && Me.HasGlyph(40912) && !HasBuff(8936) Cast Regrowth() Else Cast HealingTouch() Else DoNothing() I know the Me.X stuff I wrote isn't right, but I'm not that much into HB api, so just wrote something off my mind. And then ofc there's the obvious stuff like use Demo Roar and Bash if in bear form and you have adds - pull with feral charge and pounce, and then follow up with Ravage!. Please note that when you feral charge in cat form, your Ravage costs no energy and has no prowl requirements - it also changes name from Ravage to Ravage! and gets a different spellID. I tried modifying the default CC to do this pull, but I never managed to get it to do the Ravage!. If you're able to check for adds near the target, you should pull with Faerie Fire instead. Never use Pulverize, Savage Roar. Innervate is almost useless for ferals, and should only be used out of combat imo. You get some mana when you crit after you get Leader of the Pack. I think that's all I have for now - I know you probably knew alot of it beforehand, but I thought I'd rather mention it all. If you have any more questions or need testing or something, feel free to contact me. btw - all these points are only valid for farming.
I would really like a CC for resto in raids. Exactly like the "UPaCCBT: The BehaviourTree Ultimate Paladin Healer Custom Class" but for druids. And as a sidenote, thanks so incredibly much for your awesome job with the Fpsware CC series!
