I am just curious, you sell gold to a gold selling company on a vanilla account, as their buying/selling accounts get flagged pretty fast. But if a GM flags a gold company's account after it buys gold, surely they can just follow the gold through the trades to where ever they are storing it, and ban the chars with access to it? Now obviously that doesn't happen as all gold selling company's would be out of business pretty fast. So, how do they make the gold "Disappear" from the GM's sights?
Im not sure, i dont think they can. As far as i know, and thats saying little I know there are like 3 safish ways of doing it. 1. In game trade, apparently its the safest 2. Guild bank trade -- Invite the customer to guild, transfer money buy withdrawing said price from it 3. AH
These are people who deal with HUGE amounts of gold. They are Re-Sellers , they buy the gold cheap and sell it high. They must have some sort of strategy to Launder the gold, no idea what that strategy is though. Just keep in mind that not ALL gold resellers gets your account flagged. Not right away anyway.. Most of the companies that log in game with Chinese IP get a red flag instantly (imo).
Just like getting banned for selling gold. I guess there is no sure way to clean the gold, but meh have to try something.
We should all dedicate a while of our lives into stealing the AH's cut of gold. That would be so much money :drools: haha
its all about guild banks and middle men. alot of times people make orders with the company for gold, the company then sends the botters to meet the buyer face to face. they take a cut for being middle man. thats how the sellers i deal with on msn do it anyways. if they need to keep gold in stock they put it in guild banks. invite trial/orignal wow lvl 1s to the guild with access... if one of the accounts gets banned no big deal. go upgrade the trial and get the gold out. im sure they also use proxys/vpn's to hide IPs.
The Simplest method for Gold site to store gold is go place it in a guild bank, invite ~3 or so Trial accounts to the guild, make them officers. If the GM gets ban, no biggy. They just activate one of the Trial accounts since you can't ban an inactive account. lol.. zomgmage pretty much answered that one before me.
First off, any successful Chinese company that is worried about losing accounts or falling under suspicion will hide just about ANY proof that the character they're logging into is from China, and every account they log into is not from China and is from countries all across the world. On a side not let me make myself clear trial accounts CAN NOT sign guild charters OR be invited to a guild, they also CAN NOT trade or be mailed things and I'm pretty sure they cannot send or receive mail besides text ones. You guys are right they they store gold in guild banks but a lot of these companies are bigger than you think, so when they need a guild bank they get 10 separate accounts of their own to sign it, probably a mixture of botting accounts/brand new vanillas. After guild is created every toon is ranked up to highest ranks so they have full access to invite others, withdraw, deposit etc. The brand new vanillas will mainly stay logged out and the accounts that are already kind of suspicious (botting) will do most of the withdrawing and transactions (I said account not toon) So no matter what happens, say 7 out of 10 were banned, the suspicious ones that were either botting or doing transactions. The vanillas log in, and will do 1 of 2 things if the money in the guild bank is still there, as certain posts said Blizzard has taken away gold before (none I've seen confirmed) 1. Invite more new Vanilla accounts to the guild. However I doubt they do this method often as the guild has either been cleaned out or is suspicious looking now. 2. One of the Vanillas after withdrawing the gold from the Guild bank if it's still there, repeats the process of making a new guild with all of their own in accounts, some new vanillas some not. Now that is how they store gold short term, they never leave gold in one place at a time for too long, or the length isn't too important lets just say they don't leave it one play for many transactions. They will also usually have it least 2 guild banks per faction on realms depending on the size of the Goldsellers. Also if they have a big amount of stock on a realm and some of their money is still "dirty" e.g. done big transactions, since they have their accounts all logged in from different countries, they will buy items with the dirty money and launder that across selling to either players or their own people that have hand-farmed. After they have done this they get Fresh vanilla's to Deposit the Clean gold into a new guild bank. Gold never stays too long (as in too many transactions) in 1 guild bank they move it around if they have a bulk amount, that's one of the reasons why a lot of gold buyers won't take your gold if they have stock big size and low demand. Not only because they can't sell it because of no customers, it's risky for them to have a large amount of gold on 1 realm because if they get banned not only do they lose Vanillas and accounts they lose a big chunk of their revenue because of all the gold being gone. I'm sure I'm missing quite a few of the ways they launder it but these are the 2 that I know of also sometimes middlemen will be hired. Or sometimes occasionally if they are also gold buyers, what they will do is, is have me trade directly to a customer if they are online and give me 3$+ per K, in this way they make instant profit and risk no accounts or transaction trail. [If you read through that wall of text (I tried to break it up) thanks and I hope you found it somewhat helpful ]
Seems to me more and more gold sites are brokers, they only buy when they need, gold only stays in their hands for a very short time and then its gone and if that account which did the middle manning gets banned its no big loss.
