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    Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Goshinki, May 1, 2012.

    1. Goshinki

      Goshinki Member Legendary

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      None the less felt like wasting a thread :)

      I haven't played WoW in months and just stepped back into it.

      I upgraded my computer recently and in 25 man raids with Ultra settings I'm still dropping down to 6-15 FPS constantly.

      The weird thing is even if I drop my settings down I don't seem to improve my FPS much.


      AMD 8120 8 Core 3.1 GHz
      NVidia EVGA GTX560 TI 1GB
      GA-990FXA-UD3 Board
      CORSAIR 8GB DDR3 1866
      SSD OCZ Agility 2

      Windows 7 64 Bit Ultimate


      Haven't tried running WoW in full screen with Direct X11 yet... Probably would never play WoW without botting any more... Nothing running in the background. Multiple raids tried. Seems to be only an issue in 25 man raids. BG's drop me down to 30s every so often other wise I am constantly sitting at 60 FPS... It's weird it doesn't go above 60 FPS even though the selected is maxed to 100 FPS just will sit there right at 60.


      Any ideas to benchmark and troubleshoot this issue?
       
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    2. Mirabis

      Mirabis Community Developer

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      Since ur talking about 25 man raids it's most probably duo spell effects.
      Code:
      [COLOR=#008080][B]/console SpellEffectLevel 5[/B][/COLOR]
      PS: Default is 9
       
    3. Croga

      Croga Well-Known Member

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      Could be a lag/bandwidth issue with your internet connection.
       
    4. Goshinki

      Goshinki Member Legendary

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      Can't really try anything until the server check is done.

      A few different webpages state that command has been removed.

      SpellEffectLevel - Forums - World of Warcraft


      Still a little shocked that this computer wouldn't be able to handle 25 man raids.


      Never have been a big computer gamer... Xbox more so...



      Internet is fine. 30s ping constantly. 18 meg internet connection. No packet loss no other issues with XBL etc.



      PS just to repeat is it normal to be capped at 60 FPS? Even my old system would bump to 100 FPS here and there... this one just says at 60 FPS when in non crowded ares...

      Also does HB ever plan to support 64 bit and directx11? Why such a hold up? What's the technical reasons?
       
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    5. thetrueman2

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      25mans do require a lot more of your graphics card. I somehow doubt it would set you back to 10-15 fps (perhaps on ultraxion as everyone is stacked up there with fancy spell effects) even though I get set back to around 20-30 aswell on a CrossfireX 6950 2gb setup. One thing to try would be to update your Graphics card drivers. Nvidia updates their drivers every so often (the last release is about 2 weeks old now I think), it usually will boost your performance even a little bit. In the end the FPSdrops can also just be poor game design or some kind of addon freaking out in certain situations, it's hard to say.

      As for your 60 FPS cap: Go to Options->Graphics, and disable Vertical Sync. All this does is make sure your FPS cannot go above the refresh rate of your monitor (60 Hz in most cases, some gamers get 70-72Hz+ monitors but you have to look for that specific attribute and it usually does not come cheap). Because it can cause screen tearing it's enabled by default, however disabling it does no harm and it can cause your game to run more smoothly. if you note any weird cinematics (top half loading faster/slower) then just re-enable it.

      Hope this helps :)
       
    6. kitty

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      Try this its what am using to run wow

      GeForce 301.24 Driver BETA:

      Release Highlights:
      This is the first unified driver from the R300 family of drivers (versions 300.00 to 301.99).

      GeForce R300 drivers are packed with new industry-leading, GeForce-exclusive features as well as some really nice performance increases in top games.

      New in R300 Drivers:

      New GPU Support – Adds support for the new GeForce GTX 680, the fastest, most efficient GPU ever built. Explore GeForce GTX 680 and its new SMX architecture on GeForce.com.
      Performance Boost – Increases performance for GeForce 400 Series and 500 Series GPUs in several PC games vs. GeForce 296.10 WHQL-certified drivers. Results will vary depending on your GPU and system configuration:
      GeForce GTX 570/580:

      Up to 23% in Just Cause 2 with SLI
      Up to 21% in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
      Up to 17% in StarCraft II with SLI
      Up to 14% in Far Cry 2 with SLI
      Up to 9% in Bulletstorm
      Up to 7% in Civilization V
      Up to 6% in Deus Ex: Human Revolution with SLI
      Up to 6% in Dragon Age 2 with SLI
      Up to 5% in Metro 2033 with SLI
      Up to 5% in Total War: Shogun 2
      GeForce GTX 560/560 Ti:

      Up to 20% in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
      Up to 15% in Just Cause 2 with SLI
      Up to 13% in Far Cry 2 with SLI
      Up to 12% in Bulletstorm
      Up to 11% in Civilization V
      Up to 10% in StarCraft II with SLI
      Up to 9% in Batman: Arkham City
      Up to 4% in Deus Ex: Human Revolution with SLI
      Up to 4% in Dragon Age 2 with SLI
      Up to 4% in Metro 2033 with SLI
      Up to 4% in Total War: Shogun 2
      NVIDIA FXAA Technology – shader-based anti-aliasing technology available from the NVIDIA Control Panel that enables ultra-fast anti-aliasing in hundreds of PC games. FXAA delivers similar quality to 4x multi-sample antialiasing (MSAA) but is up to 60% faster, enabling substantially higher performance in games. FXAA is supported on all GeForce 8-series and later GPUs. Note: This feature is disabled for games that already have built-in support for FXAA. Visit GeForce.com to learn more.
      NVIDIA Surround Accessory Display : Enable a fourth ‘Accessory Display’ to check emails, browse the web, or access other applications while in-game. This feature is supported on the GeForce GTX 680. On prior generation GPUs, this feature is supported in NVIDIA Surround mode with a third graphics card.
      NVIDIA Adaptive Vertical Sync – dynamically enables vertical sync based on your current frame rates for the smoothest gaming experience. Adaptive VSync is supported on all GeForce 8-series and later GPUs. Visit GeForce.com to learn more.
      NVIDIA Frame Rate Target – dynamically adjusts frame rate to a user specified target. Support for this feature is enabled via third party applications via NVAPI. Visit GeForce.com to learn more.
      NVIDIA Surround Technology – Adds the following new Surround capabilities. Visit GeForce.com to learn more.
      Add in a fourth accessory display to get access to your email, web, or other applications while you game.
      Maximize an application to a single physical display when in Surround mode (enabled by default).
      Confine the Windows Taskbar to the center display (enabled by default).
      Enable bezel peeking – a feature which enables users to temporarily ‘peak’ behind the monitor bezels using a hotkey (Ctrl + Alt + B). This feature is designed to be used in conjunction with bezel corrected resolutions.
      Add or remove resolutions from the list of Surround resolutions (only those selected will be available to applications).
      Full center display acceleration for single wide display modes (center display must be connected to the master GPU).
      NVIDIA SLI Technology – Adds or updates the following SLI profiles:
      Alan Wake
      Call of Juarez: The Cartel
      Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
      Deus Ex: Human Revolution - The Missing Link
      Left 4 Dead
      Orcs Must Die!
      Portal 2
      Risen 2: Dark Waters
      The Darkness II
      NVIDIA 3D Vision – Adds or updates the following 3D Vision profiles:
      All Zombies Must Die! – rated Fair
      Ghosts 'n Goblins Online – rated Good
      Oil Rush – rated 3D Vision Ready
      Postal III – rated Good
      Rayman Origins – rated Good
      SevenCore – rated Fair
      Stacking – rated Good
      Unigine Heaven Benchmark v3.0 – rated 3D Vision Ready
      Wargame: European Escalation – rated Good
      Warp – rated Good
      Wings of Prey – rated Fair
      Krater – rated Poor
      Other Details
      Installs PhysX System Software v9.12.0213.
      Installs HD Audio v1.3.12.0.
      Supports OpenGL 4.2
      Supports DisplayPort 1.2 for GeForce GTX 680.
      Supports multiple languages and APIs for GPU computing: CUDA C, CUDA C++, CUDA Fortran, OpenCL, DirectCompute, and Microsoft C++ AMP.
      Supports single GPU and NVIDIA SLI technology on DirectX 9, DirectX 10, DirectX 11, and OpenGL, including 3-way SLI, Quad SLI, and SLI support on SLI-certified Intel and AMD motherboards.
       
    7. likwid818

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      Bulldozer is garbage. I'm running a core i5 2500k @ 4.6ghz, a GTX560 (not ti), 8GB 1600mhz corsair ram, and a OCZ Vertex 3. I have no trouble with any area in WoW. There is basically nothing that can tax my machine at full settings, unless it's designed to (Metro 2033 for example)..

      Also, you're running in DX9 right?
       
    8. Goshinki

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      Downloaded and installed the beta driver I'll try it here tonight.

      Yes I am running DX9.


      As any computer hardware goes it's always based on "what is best for me"

      I do a lot of rendering and video editing... even when WoW is botting... so CPU wise AMD worked out best... Not to mention the deal I got on the board and ram was 40%+ cheaper then rolling with a 2500k

      AMD Bulldozer FX-8150 vs Intel Core i5 2500K 8-Core Gaming Benchmarks Linus Tech Tips - YouTube
      Even this video shows it's about a 3%-8% gain comparing the 8150 and to a 2500k. For me only playing WoW didn't really care so much. 40% savings was much more worth it on top of it works better with what I want my computer to do.


      So yes for what I want my computer to do... since I'm not a huge gamer... AMD for the price made me have no second thoughts.

      Problem is you cant compare 4 and 8 cores. Cause really the 8 core is better IF all cores are being used. You do all these tests again WHILE encoding a a blue ray video. The AMD will ROFLSTOMP the intel just cause the idle cores will actually get used! Yeah currently, if you want a fast game, a faster 4 core CPU is better, but in the long wrong 8 cores at their current speed IS better once the games are programed to use all 8 cores. So to each his own!
       
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    9. Goshinki

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      Installed the beta driver and got rid of virtual sync and everything is running much smoother in raids now :)
       
    10. Vannya

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      Also the monitor makes a difference. If you use a just simple 1024x768, it will not be the same as a 1920x1080 (or greater). That changes the fps a lot,... and I feel like ATI is better for games than Nvidia, even if some games (in agreement with Microsoft, of course. Thats the market) says the oposite.
      1gb with 1920x1080 (as a standard) will not give you too much. But 2, 3, 4 gb of graphic card... Thats another story, sir. Dont espect too much from that graphic card with a big monitor. Believe me.
       

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