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    Discussion in 'Ban Section - Ban Reports' started by Superior, Jun 22, 2012.

    1. Superior

      Superior New Member

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      All of my running bots got banned today at the same time, I'm glad only 3 of them were running.
      I saw it happened to others too, maybe Blizzard noticed something?
      Never ran them for more than 8-10 hours a day and been botting for the last 3 years, these were my first bans.
      Tried to appeal with all of them but only 1 was successful, the other 2 permanently banned.
      Is there any way I could still unban them?
       
    2. no1knowsy

      no1knowsy Well-Known Member

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      Just keep appealing the ban. Worst they can do is say no. Get creative, the next day try a new story. You'll likely get a new associate on the next appeal.
       
    3. Lovemonkey

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      I tried that, they ended up banning my battlenet with all my other games on it lol
       
    4. no1knowsy

      no1knowsy Well-Known Member

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      Wait... they banned the whole Bnet account, or just the game licenses on it?
       
    5. Lovemonkey

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      The whole battlenet :(

      Your remaining active account (starter account) has been suspended for 3 hours due to continued abuse of the support system despite the previous warnings given.

      Continuing to submit tickets will not change the outcome and you was provided an email address that you can email should you wish to contest the account ban.

      Further abuse of the ticket system could result in further sanctions and possibly the closure of your BattleNet account or the removal of the support system to you.
       
    6. no1knowsy

      no1knowsy Well-Known Member

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      They cannot remove your access to the battle.net account. Customer service has no right to revoke your ability to play games you paid for just because they don't feel like they have the time for you.
      If they do just move to the US and sue them :p
       
    7. Lovemonkey

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      lol i wish i could...

      Would rather buy a train ticket to france and shit on the persons desk that banned me ;p
       
    8. Venus112

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      Well most likely they can give a 3 hour suspension for exploiting their systems - but if they were to close the entire battle.net account for good - they are most likely doing something very illegal. Sorry for your loss
       
    9. Lovemonkey

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      Hmmm, if anybody has some legal experience on this could you please clue me up on it.

      If it is illegal ill push them to ban my whole account so i can sue ;D
       
    10. Mekko09

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      You're not going to win in a legal battle against Blizzard.
       
    11. Lovemonkey

      Lovemonkey New Member

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      Orly?

      Anybody can sue anybody these days, especially if they were in the wrong.
       
    12. Mekko09

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      Except you don't have the resources that they do to mount a legal battle. And the TOS pretty much gives the Blizzard the right to do whatever they want to with your account without your permission.
       
    13. Chulie

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      I can tell you right now, even if you did get unbanned on all 3 accounts - You would be banned instantly once you started botting again. Getting a botting account unbanned is pointless because you get banned a few days later after botting again with those accounts. Trust me, I have done this before and it just doesn't work. Once you are banned it's over. Start fresh accounts with different names etc. - also, 3 years without getting banned is great. You had a VERY good run. good job.

      on another note - If you keep submitting tickets, Blizzard will tell you that that they investigated once again and have come to the same conclusion. if you send another one after that, you will get the same email but this time it will say that their decision will not change and that any further messages from you relating to the same subject will not be responded to. Been there done that, start over and move on.
       
    14. Crowley

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      Sorry to hear and i hope the response you posted was a translation and not verbatim:

      "and you was provided an email address"

      That's some very poor English if they typed it in English xD
       
    15. tc-zze

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      Source: Blizzard Entertainment:World of Warcraft Terms of Use

      :( bad luck Charley,
      In all seriousness sorry for the loss.
       
    16. Kronz

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      Just because it's written there doesn't mean it has any power if it's illegal. No ToS may supersede your consumer rights. Blizzard just crazy statements and clauses to make it that much harder and longer to contest it in court against them, as the practice now in the US is for big companies to just bankrupt smaller plaintiffs by making the court process take too long and require the aid of very high paid lawyers. They do know such statements, as the one quoted above are total BS and cannot survive a real court battle, but the agreement is full of other BS that will make it very hard for an individual to actually win, as a lot of companies got burned during the Clinton administration, when this entire "Everyone can sue everyone" trend started.

      Now small people have actually worse chances at winning than before as they get strangled by the big corporations with stuff that is very expensive to fight against.

      You will, actually win big money if you do win, and this is one nice thing to it, so I wish you best of luck.

      Here is what you can use in your favor if you should decide to go to court.

      1. You did not accept or sign this ToS before purchasing the game. You weren't presented with this ToS at the moment of purchase. Legally, this is very unethical marketing and is a solid ground to contest the agreement and win. Blizzard may argue that the ToS and EULA are published on their site, but this is still a violation of consumer rights, as they are still withholding vital information from the consumer, by publishing it in different places, scattered, obfuscated and in a hard to comprehend manner.

      2. Application of methods, which change a customer's financial behavior - you are forced to either accept the EULA and ToS at the moment of starting the game, or not play, but you are not entitled to a refund in case you disagree with what is outlined in there, and in such a manner they are holding you hostage with your own money, essentially pressuring you to accept the agreements, or forfeit your money, which is another violation of consumer rights, so even tho you have accepted the ToS, you have done it under pressure from them, a situation in which you ended due to them using the practice in #1, as they are essentially selling the product in one place and keeping the essential legal documents in another place, in this case the Internet. Now, things might turn out to be more complicated if you bought the game online, but still you may argue about the shape in which it was presented, how it was presented, and the overall incomprehensible, hard to understand nature of the ToS and EULA, which require a significant amount of time on behalf of the customer to fully read and understand.

      3. The provisions of Sections 4, 5, 8, 11, and 12-17 shall survive any termination of this Agreement. You need to look that one up closer, as it does sound shady. You shouldn't be forever bound by the provisions of a terminated agreement.

      4. Essentially, the part about forfeiting refunds on all your items on your Battle.net account, including pre-ordered items is a "fine" Blizzard are imposing on you should you decide to terminate the agreement, since the agreement also mentions you may not resell your Battle.net account to others, so they are illegally pressuring you to stay stuck with them forever, or forfeit everything you have. Again breach of consumer rights.

      5. You should sue in Europe if you are from Europe, as the rights of the consumer and of the individual in court and your chances are better there.
       
    17. Superior

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      Got back another account today with a 3 days suspension, only one banned now.
      I hope I can get back that one too. :)
       
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      I have spoken with a GM on the phone, Every time you send in a ticket, even if it is 100 times, They fully review the account, even when they respond with, it has been upheld, only.
       
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      I noticed this too, i tried farming manually, didn't turn on any bot and they still banned me three days later, but after i got unbanned again i havent been banned since.
       
    20. wartog

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      TOTTALY Abusive and ILLEGAL.



      Sorry, but TOS means NOTHING.
      There's a lot of unconstitutional lines at this Terms of Use!!

      ANY lawyer could beat these terms down like shit.

      And, just as an adjunct to the Kronz post:


      Copyright Law of the United States of America

      and Related Laws Contained in Title 17 of the United States Code?, Chapter 12

      ? 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems

      (f) Reverse Engineering. — (1) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (a)(1)(A), a person who has lawfully obtained the right to use a copy of a computer program may circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a particular portion of that program for the sole purpose of identifying and analyzing those elements of the program that are necessary to achieve interoperability of an independently created computer program with other programs, and that have not previously been readily available to the person engaging in the circumvention, to the extent any such acts of identification and analysis do not constitute infringement under this title. "

      Since the iphone's jailbreak issues, it's basically LEGAL to bot. Plus, bots works like a tool for handcaps.
       

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