here's the stuff i've tried so far: I've uninstalled and reinstalled C++ and dotnet4 and restarted my computer, that didn't work used buddy prequisites wizard I've tried running WoW in admin mode, directx 9 and 11, windowed mode, windowed mode (fullscreen) that didn't work too made sure that WoW is running in 32 bit mode from the launcher disabled all my mods in WoW deleted the WoW Cache I'm running out on ideas on what the problem is, can you guys give me some input on other stuff that I might be missing? I've attached a log on my latest attempt on making HB work