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    1. anthony123

      anthony123 Member

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      I just got a 72 Hour Suspension (Use of Third Party Automation Software), a have lost (ban) a few accounts lately with the uses of HB. I know if you bot you can get a ban, but if seems with HB that its not "you may get a ban" if "when will you get a ban". I do like the bot, I have used alot of bots over the years. There seems to be alot of ban here compared to other bots, look for yourself people.

      1)Were you using Honorbuddy, Gatherbuddy or both on the account?
      HB
      2)If so, when was the last time?:
      10 mins. ago
      3)What profile were you using?:
      [Horde] Questing Northerend (68-80) HB2 Questing Beta3 ( grinding ),
      [Stable] Honorbuddy 1.9.5.1

      4)What combat class were you using? if None Just put Default then the Classname:
      SHAMWOW Version: 4.1.5
      5)What plugins are you using?:
      none

      6)How many hours per day did you bot for?:
      12
      7)How many auctions per day did you have?:
      0
      8)Did you Use Any Other Bots, Hacks, or Mods?
      no
      9)Was your account involved in gold selling?

      no

      Here the email:

      English speaking customers: Please refer to the start of this mail Para los clientes espa?oles: Por favor vayan hasta el fin de este correo electr?nico Account Name: XXXXXXXXX
      Account Action: 72 Hour Suspension
      Reason for Action: Terms of Use Violation -- Exploitative Activity: Use of Third Party Automation Software

      This suspension happened because one or more characters on this account were identified using an unauthorized cheat program, also known as a ""hack."". These programs provide character benefits normally not achievable in the World of Warcraft. Such benefits include, but are not limited to, increased speed, teleportation, or running through walls/boundaries. Use of these unauthorized programs harm the game environment because they offer an unfair advantage over other players and superscede the intended limits of the game.

      Even if this behavior is the result of a third party accessing the account instead of the registered user (for example, a friend, family member, or leveling service) then the account can still be held responsible for the penalty because of the impact it had on the game environment.

      We've found the above behavior is many times directly related to groups responsible for compromising World of Warcraft accounts; we take these issues very seriously. To better understand our position against exploitative activity and the risks involved, please review this article:

      The exploitative activity that took place on this account violates the World of Warcraft Terms of Use. We ask you take a moment to review these terms at . Note that additional Terms of Use violations may result in more severe actions against this account, up to and including permanent closure.

      For any disputes of this action or further information on Exploitive Activity, please visit the Exploitative Activity FAQ and contact page here:

      Regards,

      Customer Services
      Blizzard Entertainment

      end email.
      I do hope this helps,



      The first step to fixing a problem is admitting there is one!


       
    2. lightingthunder

      lightingthunder New Member

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      looks like all suspensions that popped today are from using hb
       
    3. tommyluvsbots

      tommyluvsbots New Member

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      mostly people who botted over 8hrs =(
       
    4. Kisovec

      Kisovec New Member

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      There is nothing about how long do you bot.
      Ok that indeed makes you more likely to get reported by other players but nothing more then that.

      As i said i have few years of botting behind me and i know a lil ... and i am saying hb is detected.
      They are only slowly marking us.

      I am also 85% sure that everyone (with me included) who got 72h ban will be perm banned soon enough.

      I ll hide and wait for boss respond ... also i ll try to sell my accounts because withou hb i am not up to level 3 chars from 70 to 80 by my own hands.
       
    5. Bleinenweber

      Bleinenweber New Member

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      I had 3 72hours bans all on HB a month ago. One got perma baned a week later. The other 2 are 80's and have been farming on GB now for 2 weeks. I do agree with you that it is HB and not GB. All my suspensions/bans the past 3 months have been on HB only.
       
    6. Zevksis

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      If HB was detected we would have a banwave on our hands..
      You would get a permanent ban if it was detected by warden but most get a 72 hour suspension so blizzard might detect some bot behaviour and give you a warning.
       
    7. wired420

      wired420 Banned

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      I haven't had a ban yet in 6 months..... I bot 24/7.... Sounds bad luck or your doing something stupid like mailing and auctioning mass amounts of greens. Stay away from mail, stay away from auctions unless its purple or blue.
       
    8. Kisovec

      Kisovec New Member

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      true ... ve been using mail all the time.

      Ok when i get unban i ll try it again and if i get ban than i ll keep on my opinion.
       
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      xn3t0x New Member

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      "true ... ve been using mail all the time.
      Ok when i get unban i ll try it again and if i get ban than i ll keep on my opinion."


      you say that HB is detected, yet you are going to use it again.. are you stupid?!

      so you are either WRONG.... or you are right and STUPID
       
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      Kisovec

      You sir, are simply simple.
       
    11. anthony123

      anthony123 Member

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      I do not know if its mailing or what, all i know is every account i have every used with GB/HB has been perma ban ( except for this last one , 72h ban for now). Now for the last 2 monthes i have been botting another account with another bot and no problems, so? All i hear from the mod is that its player reports, mailing or so on, not the bot. But the way I look at it is if the bot mails and that get you banned then get rid of the mailing. If its player reporting, then ask yourself why are they reporting/thinking you are a bot and fix this problem and so on. What I am saying is even if its player reporting(which i do not think it is)then fix the problem with the bot that makes players think you are using a bot.
       
    12. Kisovec

      Kisovec New Member

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      no, no ...

      i just want to get a ban to have a solid prof that they detected us but they are not that stupid to mascarade 1000 or more players at the one time ...
       
    13. lightingthunder

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      Man i dont use mail or auctioning anything
      You also said one of your accounts got banned last week after using hb
       
    14. Baltik

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      I honestly don't believe that HB is detected. Blizzard doesn't give a shit about picking people off little by little..I have no idea how many HB/GB users there are to date to be honest..let's throw out 5,000 just for an example. 5,000 accountsx$15 per month=75,000. A lot of money. 11.5 million registered accounts bringing in somewhere around $172 million per month, and they've got SCII coming out within the week, which will be another multi million dollar prject that will have a large pay day for blizzard. When you put it into perspective..Blizz knows that if they banned every single account they could that bots, the majority of those players are going to start over.

      I will say however, that I believe blizzard has the ability to pinpoint botters through other means..Where you grind, how long you grind, possibly cast sequence/consistency in play overall. The possibilities go on and on. Just remember it doesn't take even an hour of botting (especially when you're afk) to recieve a player report. All it takes is one flaw/mistake and you can be reported. Now all blizzard has to do is look back, say "Yep, this player has been grinding these areas for 8 hours a day with nearly perfect consistency in cast sequence/etc. No short pauses for bathroom breaks or anything similar." Bam..Ban hammer.

      I really can't say for sure what it is, but I'm 99% sure that HB, as a program, is not currently detected. Perhaps Blizzard felt like toying with us, and decided to save all their player report bans for the week leading to their next big release, thinking they could cause a bit of chaos back at the Buddy Forums. =P
       
    15. arjie

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      i got a whisp a few days ago from a player who said i moved like a bot, lucky i was watching tv on the pc at the same time and saw the whisp and struck up a conversation with him. Apparently he thought i was a bot because i straffed in my movement.

      I was using HB at the time to mine, and he was right the movement was very unnatural and really didnt look like an actual player. It wouldn't surprise me if blizz are using to a few things to flag you then all it takes is a 30 sec look from a gm to spot the unnatural movement between kills and BAM! A GM could do a few hundred a shift without racking up any overtime.

      I got 72hr banned last week and now im hand leveling my dude the last few levels to 80 then straight on GB to farm.
       
    16. Hawker

      Hawker Well-Known Member Buddy Core Dev

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      Most of the reports are random. All we really know is that they monotor the number of mobs of 1 type you kill, the number of nodes of 1 type you harvest and if you are running too few or too many auctions. In your case, its pretty clear why you got banned.

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      [FONT=Calibri][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2]7)How many auctions per day did you have?:
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      You really need to run auctions. Only bots go weeks with no auctions from the account and a lot of bans are caused by that. It worth saying that people running 100s of daily auctions almost never get banned.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT]
       
    17. anthony123

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      Please, thats BS. I had 0 auction that few day/week, but i had used the AH. So you get a ban for using AH to little or to much. This is not my first bot or my first account ban for using GB/HB.
      Here's an idea, the bot looks to bottest and players are reporting it. Bossland himself said he thinks the bans are from PVP player reports. So why not fix the problem with the bot and get on with it?
      Make the bot act more human, first thing. Screw the PVP, questing, skinning, gathering and all the other stuff UNTIL IT LOOKS MORE HUMAN. The best bots are very hard for players to tell the different between human or bot. Or we can continue with a great gathering, skinning and questing bot that looks bottest and we will continue to get bans from player reports.

      Why are the admins. and mods. beating around the bush and not talking directly about the basic problem, the bottest movement/fighting of the bot?
       
    18. Hawker

      Hawker Well-Known Member Buddy Core Dev

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      Don't take my word on it. Go through this forum, read all the 72 hour suspension reports and see what they have in common.
       
    19. anthony123

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      Again what about the bottest movement/fighting of the HB bot?

      I have looked and i agree with Bossland that it seems to be player reports (for HB). So why not fix this????
       
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      I have to agree with anthony, i think before there are more features added the Devs should go back and check their security and humanlikelyness of the bot = P Auctions shouldn't matter, they can't ban you for doing shit and then not using the AH = P Just my opinion
       

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