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  • 32bit to improve performance?

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    1. HB4970W69

      HB4970W69 New Member

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      So i was told that 32bit windows 7 was superior to 64bit since its native 32 and doesnt have to emulate the correct environment like 64. Im asking this because WoW seems to be using an abnormal amount of resources considering my PC specs. when running 6 clients at lowest everything each client seems to run 20-30% of my cpu power and close to 1gb of ram according to my task manager.

      specs
      Windows 7 64 bit ultimate
      amd phenom 965
      gtx 580
      8gb @ 1600
      80gb intel SSD(2nd gen)
      1tb WD black hard drive
       
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    2. Kickazz006

      Kickazz006 Well-Known Member Moderator

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      32 bit won't recognize over 3.3 gb of ram btw

      sounds like you need to get a sandy OC'd with some liquid cooling if you're going to be adding more bots

      my old 1.5 ghz (dual core) laptop w/ 4gb ddr2 can run 4 hb's just fine

      check out additional things you can do to lower your usage. I also have my wow windows at like 150x200
       
    3. CodenameG

      CodenameG New Member

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      if you do upgrade you, lose half of that ram, since 32bit OS's Cant address more memory then that, so your stuck, make sure your not running addons on the wow clients, and maybe think about upgrading your ram. 16 is better then 8, specially since you said your maxing it out, petty much.
       
    4. HB4970W69

      HB4970W69 New Member

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      Yeah but wouldnt the WoW client use less ram as well? As far as the ram limitation i was told of a program called WIPE from another botter, he told me he used it to overcome the limitation. This was advice i recived from someone who mass botted.
       
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      HB4970W69 New Member

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      also, i edited my post. what i meant was im @ 100% cpu power with each client running around 15-20% and ram hitting 7gb. i didnt think wow would take this much power though
       
    6. Apoc

      Apoc Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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      The WoW client will still use just as much memory, however by switching to x86 you'll lose out on the ability to use more than 4gb of memory. WoW being x86 means it can't use more than 4gb total memory [actually far far less, but lets keep it simple]. You can run as many WoW's on x64, as you have memory/CPU for, which in my case is ~20-30 WoWs (16GB memory). If I went to x86, I'd get a little less than 1/2 that (so roughly 10 WoWs).

      Being on x86 won't boost performance, it'll only hurt it.

      To fix your memory issues with WoW itself, you can set custom cvars to turn everything down even further than you can with the in-game options. Just google for it.
       
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      you might just be hitting the limit of your CPU, make sure on your clients you have sound turned off, and your running them in 800 x600, with the lowest settings possible, in game you should be using around 300mb to 500mb per wow client logged in. and each client i was running was taking about 10-20% cpu usage. so you might just be hitting the limits.
       
    8. DarkBen

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      I never saw am example were 32 bit would improve anything. One thing is that your system wont be able to address over 4gb memory address, and if you take in account that your hardware is accessed using the memory address as well it consumes around 700mb worth of memory adress space, bringing your system to have available only 3.3gb of ram, unles you use paging wich is the worst thing i ever see, not even worth to mention how this work here.

      On 64bit, not only you are able to access much more memory (which is key to have more than 4gb in a gaming system today) but also the cpu can read and write twice as fast to the memory as it reads and write data in 64bit, instead of 32bit.

      So even is a little emulation is place over your program (called Windows 32-bit on Windows 64-bit or Simple WOW64 - How homonimous! :) ) You read and write much more data to the memory, so you can only benefit from it. Not to mention that you run multiples bots it will use all your memory for this. instead of only 3.3gb in 32bit mode.
       
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      You have very good PC and i think the key for you is optimization of wow client graphics,
      because it is possible to reach minimum usage of CPU and RAm for wow.exe like 3-6%CPU and 30-50mb RAM per 1 client.
       

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