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    Discussion in 'Ban Section - Ban Reports' started by Dethryn, Jan 10, 2013.

    1. Dethryn

      Dethryn New Member

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      Ok, so I'll explain a few things - I've been botting for 2 years, and have been botting 6 accounts 24/7 with NO suspensions, i'm not kidding, i've been using Gatherbuddy for 12 month period, non-stop, never logged off (cept for the days the servers shut down for a few hours) All 6 characters mailed 1 of my chars, who then prospected/milled, and spread out the gems between 2 chars and flooded the auction house

      I'm very baffled and conufsed
      I've been 9 characters from 85-90 grinding in MOP for 2 weeks, nonstop, no problem
      I had started playing again back in August of this year, and have been botting with 0 problems on 6 accounts again, just like before, brought 9 chars to 90 two weeks straight up grinding in MOP, as said, no problems

      My friend and I decided things were going so well (Gold was so profitable) to go ahead and each buy 6 additional accounts, and go to a different more populated server
      He got 6 accounts, botting on one computer, 800x600 resolution, llow graphics, windowed mode, botting 24/7 Questing with kicks profile

      I made 6 accounts, botting on 2 computers, 3 on each, same situation

      Out of nowhere, roughly about 60 hours into leveling from 1-35ish, all 6 of his accounts got suspended for 72 hours, all six at once, all six were in different locations doing different quests in different maps, made no sense for 6 chars (to me) to get suspended with no whisper from a GM, nobody actually spotting them and reporting them? (If someone spotted and reported, you'd figure they'd whisper you first right?) nope, just suspended all 6 at once

      Made no sense, but I figured ok, well thats weird, and continued on botting myself, well exactly 60 hours into my botting of my new accounts, I had exactly same situation happen, however only 3 of my 6 new accounts got suspended, and I also had another 3 accounts from my original acounts of 2 years buildign Dks on the new server, who were pretty much goign to be botted to 90 and be my prospect/mill chars, with no further botting after that

      I run roughly 12 accounts at my home now, but I do have 3 modems (1 UVerse, 2 Cables) I try to split 4-6 per modem, to prohibit any red flags from coming (so many accounts from same IP and all) I also should mention that just to be extra safe, I went and made 12 battle net accounts and have all 12 accounts completely seperate under their own bnet accounts (annoying, but hopefully safer)

      So heres what confuses me, being someone whos botted at least 9 chars from 1-90 in the 3rd and 4th quarter (6 month period) of 2012, and have had 6 guys running all over MoP gatherbuddying 24/7 for 7 months now, and still going on doing that on the same computer that these other chars of mine got suspended for questing on a different server, these guys just got suspended and i cant figure out why

      Im on a new server, seems more populated, is it possible population had to do with it? How can I bot 24/7 and build 24/7 1-90 (I really push it) and not have 1 single issue, and move to a server that is 16000 population as opposed to 8000, and suddenly bam we're all banned for 72 hours?

      At first I thought maybe they have some automated system that detects over 48 hours of leveling nonstop, but that makes no sense becuase I didnt have that problem on Blackrock, then next thing you know, I move to Illidin and boom im banned for leveling chars, just as i got them to their mid 40's, It makes noi sense to me becuase ive never had a problem on the other servers and sudenly here I am having a problem?

      Botting 24/7, do you think its possible to do without actually getting cought? If you do get cought, is it by player report, or is it becuase honorbuddy or gatherbuddy gets detected? or could it be from some red flags raiding that your on 24/7 ??
      Makes no sense to me, think about it, ive done so many chars from 1-90 24/7 , i walk by make sure they aint stuck and move on, no problems
      Suddenly on this new server we've been suspended once already, and on all 6 chars (both of us) at once, why all chars at once? Its not the IP cause I had 2 and 2 and 2 on 3 different modems/IPs, different bnet accounts, different computers ( split between 5 computers are 12 accounts) It's confusing becuase ive never had a problem before, and suddenly do now?

      I know its safer to be reasonable botter, but Ive never had a problem being greedy and pushing the envelope before
       
    2. Dethryn

      Dethryn New Member

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      Sorry about my sloppy spelling, I'm grilling through my keyboard and a bit tipsy, but I reread my post and it's readable lol
       
    3. Aion

      Aion Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Think out of the shape! Whats the huge difference between your new 2 sets of 6x accounts and all the other 24/7 botting accounts?

      They have registered only since 60 hours!

      If you spend some time reading players reports in the Ban sections here and in the DB forum, you will notice alot of unusual 72h bans on fresh accounts, aimed with 24/7 botting since their "Day one".

      So the only logical conclusion is - they have some kind of server side scripts, which monitor fresh accounts for extensive gameplay and auto-suspend for 72h the 24/7 gameplay patterns.

      Let face it, if GM "by hand" investigate these accounts, he will confirm by 101% that they are botting since noone would chain quest for 60 hours straight, and he will action the account with closure!
       
    4. Dethryn

      Dethryn New Member

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      Actually, 2 of the 5 accounts suspended are my original accounts of 2 years that I was botting 24/7 on for 20 months of the 24 months on Blackrock, and was using those accounts to build DKs on the new server Illidin I was going too - but those got suspended at the exact same time the other 3 new fresh accounts lost connection, makes no sense
      It's not by IP, it's not by Battenet username, and its not because they were fresh accounts, or the other 2 senior accounts wouldnt have got hit, makes no sense, cant figure it out
       
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      Why are you so sure about "itsn not by IP" ? even even your google account can show your current location (number of the house)...
       
    6. astra

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      I don't recommend 24/7 botting. No human can play for 24/7 and blizz know that.

      Maby there scan on online times i don't know but it seems so.
       
    7. Mario27

      Mario27 Banned

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      wel as you almost did 24/7 24/7 is stil a risk to get you banned. even if it takes 2 years.
       
    8. tokinterrorz

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      I had the same thing only 3 accounts tho as soon as i setup on stormscale boom i get a ban at lvl 82 all 3 chars never had this problem on lower populated servers i think its down to the server economy my 20 pence
       
    9. Yasuko

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      First off, its retarded to bot 24/7 for any amount of time, let alone for 7~ months straight.
      Second, its not honorbuddy getting detected. (in a way it is)

      The waypoint movement of the bot is easily detectable by players.. sharp turns between waypoints can easily be recognized by players, especially using grinding profiles. Kicks profiles are highly used by people in this forums it seems, and even on a larger server where there are alot more people out and about, let alone more botters out and about it will easily be seen.

      You mentioned that you doubt its due to someone(a player) reporting you because they normally whisper "reported" or similar to you when doing so? This isnt true, I know many people who do not notify a botter that they are being reported.. and personally its kinda pointless to do so. If i were running 6 accounts on one computer, I wouldnt be using addons to monitor whispers since it would just be more load on cpu/memory, and alot of people do not use the monitoring plugins to let them know someone is IMing them.. so its very easy to miss a whisper unless you are sitting there baby sitting them.. and beings you let them run for 7 months straight, I doubt you were monitoring them.

      I've been using honorbuddy for some time now, and its very easy to spot someone else using honorbuddy.. especially on a highly rated profile such as Kicks profiles, I personally dont report other botters unless they are greedy and have their bot set to ninja nodes, but there are some people out there that will report any and every bot they see, just so they can have the advantage over the market on that server.

      Its awesome that you are making a profit enough to get 6 accounts going strictly off your selling margin, but take more caution on how you bot.. give it a break once in a while. Blizzard does notice someone grinding 24/7 for so long at a time. There have been threads before about how blizzard tracks things such as kills per hour or w/e.. whether they are true or not, I dont know.. but still..

      My advice would just be to handle the 72 hour ban, and learn how to make your own profiles.. especially grinding profiles. Last night I was grinding a paladin to 90.. there must have been 3 other people using the exact same profile i was using.. I'm sure one of them had reported me, but its not much of a risk beings as it was only for an 8 hour session while i was working, and babysitting the account. But if i had 6 accounts going at once, I would be sure to be using my own grinding profiles, and even my own gathering profiles so that there wouldnt be a "train" forming while farming.. which if seen by people would be a dead give away that you are botting. Also taking a break would prevent people who constantly do /who in a zone from seeing you in the same zone for hours upon hours upon weeks upon etc, which is also a dead give away that someone is botting.

      There are many guides on teaching how to make custom profiles, someone even made a program in .net that makes it alot easier to make your own profiles (search for it, i dont know it off hand).

      With all that being said, you really dont have a case to come here and complain about a 72 hour ban.. you knew it would happen sooner or later for trying to bot for that long without downtime (not including tuesday downtimes).. botting carefully is the way to go. I used to bot on a highly populated server and never once got a suspension or a ban, and I was botting there for over a year before deciding that people camping my toon on a pvp server wasnt worth the downtime.
       
    10. Yasuko

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      No they can not, unless you have it set in your google profile. all they can see is a traceroute of your IP and the location (city) of where its coming from.. which in most cases is the main node for your location.. Even an ISP can not tell you which house number you have a modem hooked up to.. the closest they can get (without alot of investigation) is the closest node that your modem is tftp'ed to (scenario of taking your modem to another house besides the one you have on file on your internet account).. please know basic information before posting.
       
    11. Dethryn

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      I'm not worried that I got suspended, I'm trying to figure out why it would happen.. Why did all 5 accounts get suspended at once?
      My friend, this morning, also got suspended (This morning, obviously after I posted this) They suspended 2 of his bnet accounts, which each have 3 accounts, WOW1 and WOW3 on both accounts were suspended, yet WOW2 on both Bnet accounts were left alone to continue botting
      Same thing happened to me a few weeks ago, when I was in a trial mode, so I decided to have them remove WOW1 and WOW3 and paid for WOW2 and continued playing with that
      If someone reports you, why would all 5 accounts, 3 which are new, and 2 which are 2 years old suddenly lose server connection and get suspended, it just makes no sense, suspension from report should happen individually by report, not by having 5 of your 12 botting accounts suspended at once, several of which on different IPs, doesnt make sense

      I'm not worried, the whole account costs 60 dollars to puchase and upgradew to Pandaria, and botting to 90 takes a month at most, im more concerned about trying to understand exactly where I went wrong, to ensure this doesnt happen again, you know?
       

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