Hey everyone! First off: I'm a lucky one. I stopped playing (and botting) on september/october 2015, I didn't catch "The" banwave, and I never even thought of playing again up until now. Now, with Legion not far ahead, I'm considering coming back, and - of course - I'm reading on what I missed HB-wise. Tripwire, detections, banwaveS (plural).. looks like Blizzard won, ain't it? But reading the "ban stories" forum made me think: nowadays THE most heinous crime you can commit towards mother Blizzard is (duh!) robbing them of their money (abusing economy, blah blah) ... aka, buying tokens using gold obtained through botting. So, even if it's a bit of an useless question... what if one does not do that? I mean... of course, the point of botting has often been to acquire gold and items... but not everyone botted for profit. I didn't. I used to bot because I wanted to play with more than 1 class, because I got tired of playing the same places over and over again, because I re-rolled on another realm, because I found some parts of the game boring... What I'm trying to say is: is it fair to suppose Blizzard is mainly focused on their new "loss of money" (tokens and the acquiring of em), and if you PAY your subscription to the game, "old school", you're less in danger, while botting? (all the usual restrictions apply: no afk, no 24/7, blah blah blah) Just a thought. What do you think?
Nice thoughts, but for me wrong. Blizzard wants HB to shut down. They will ban you no matter what you bot. The cat and mouse game is stronger than ever, and the cat catchs the mouse more often than a couple of years ago. My personal opinion: HB isnt save anymore in any way. Tripwire does not work (as you said, several banwaves, once Tripwire was working wrong, once they didn't know what happend, once they said they were catched). Strange is since I stopped botting with HB, no more bans happend. Just my 5 cents, other people will tell you it is as save as always.
I was just a small time routine user with manual movement, and occasionally botted for garrisons or fishing when the first ban hit me. I switched it up, played what I thought was safe and only CR with manual movement second time I was banned. So they don't look at it like that. They keep it confusing for us.
Blizzard can detect the injection that HB makes into the WoW client. Once detected they flag your account and put you on a list. when the next banwave rolls out the whole list gets banned. Never does Blizz even look at a) how frequently you bot b) what your botting or why c) do you pay a subscription with real cash or wow tokens