Specifically, we need the following information, please: About your server... Realm: ( ) EU; ( ) Pacific; (x) US; Type: ( ) PvE; (x) PvP; ( ) RP; About the account... Account created after the 10-Nov-2016 banwave? ( ) Yes; (x) No; Account had previous suspensions or bans? ( ) Yes; (x) No; Did you bot on this account even once with Tripwire disabled? ( ) Yes; (x) No; About account usage... How many (average) hours per day did you bot? (4~8); What estimated percentage of the time did you supervise your bot? (25%); How many auctions per day did you post on this account? ( ) auction count; ( ) per day; (2) per week; Did you use any non-Honorbuddy bots with this account? ( ) Yes; (x) No; If so, which ones? ( ); (A non-legitimate Honorbuddy should be listed here, as it does not have the same account protections as legitimate Honorbuddy.) Did you use any H4cks, Che4ts, or mods with this account? ( ) Yes; (x) No; (If so, please name them.) Which Combat Routines have you used with this account during the PAST FOUR WEEKS? (x) Singular; ( ) Accessary Routines; ( ) Gladiator Suite; ( ) KingWoW; ( ) ManOfWar; ( ) Millz; ( ) Omation; ( ) RichieCR; ( ) TuanHA; ( ) Other third-party (please specify);: In which of these activities has the account participated as a bot during the PAST FOUR WEEKS? ( ) Gold buying; ( ) Gold selling; ( ) Game-time Token (bought with game gold); ( ) PvP: Arena (rated or non-rated); ( ) PvP: Battlegrounds (rated or non-rated); ( ) PvP: Zones (e.g., Ashran, Wintergrasp, etc.); ( ) Archeology sessions (greater than four hours); ( ) Dungeon diving (mixed human/bot party); ( ) Dungeon farming (SOLO, or ALL-BOT PARTIES, ONLY; same set of dungeons greater than four hours); ( ) Dungeon raiding (LFR; 10+ person dungeons) ( ) Fishing sessions (greater than four hours); ( ) Garrison maintenance / management; ( ) Gathering sessions (greater than four hours); (x) Questing (only questing purposes OTHER THAN leveling. E.g., dailies, proto-drake hunting, pet acquisition, etc.); ( ) The account used a 'relogger' ( ) The account used 'Server hopping'; ( ) The account used VPN; ( ) Something else (please specify);: Do you have any observations about the event you'd like to share? So I have noticed some similarities between this ban and the last one that hit last year. Before the last patch I would say right up to the day before when the servers go down for maintenance at 6am Pacific time I was botting as usual but started to notice some odd behavior. The bot followed a NPC to a rock and was trying to attack the NPC even though the NPC was invulnerable and obviously being controlled by a GM. I was not quick enough nor looking at the right time to make the bot stop and play it off like I had been there. The same thing happened during the last ban wave with NPC's being moved and placed in odd spots to make the bot do 180 turns to a place outside of normal field of view. I also noticed that my game, even though I tell specifically not to update, would show a green circle like it was downloading something in the background. This exact same thing happened during the last ban wave and I know they are connected. Sure as shit I got banned again after the dreaded green circle of death is what I will start to call it. Im pretty sure that is currently how Blizzard is getting past tripwire by ninja patching something that the bot does not see and from there finds out that one is indeed botting. I hope this information can be of some use for the developers as a way to prevent this from happening the future. We all need to be more careful around patch time as it seems this is when the bot is getting detected from some kind of stealth patching that is going on in the game. Right now the cat is winning in the game.