Loggs attached, I tried a clean download from the the main post, also tried without any addons/plugins. View attachment 1856 2016-06-21 12.39.txt View attachment 3160 2016-06-21 12.31.txt View attachment 4532 2016-06-21 12.47.txt View attachment 4760 2016-06-21 12.44.txt View attachment 6524 2016-06-21 12.32.txt View attachment 6904 2016-06-21 12.38.txt View attachment 7536 2016-06-21 12.48.txt View attachment 8424 2016-06-21 12.42.txt View attachment 9112 2016-06-21 12.45.txt thans for the help. -alfy16