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    Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by leo, Dec 4, 2010.

    1. leo

      leo New Member

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      ive read and read and read, and tired of waiting for someone else to making profiles for HB but I cant damn figure it out how to make a questing profile, I lost my brain somwhere....

      i bet 10$ i never gona learn me making my own profiles... :mad:
       
    2. chinajade

      chinajade Well-Known Member Moderator Buddy Core Dev

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      What did you read exactly?

      Did you look in the Wiki (button at the top)? Honorbuddy: Getting Started as a Profile Writer. It even has a starter profile for Questing.

      Its not that hard, as anyone in his dog can throw a quick one together. Creating a quality profile is the real challenge.

      I think you'll find it fun.

      cheers & good luck with it,
      CJ
       
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    3. leo

      leo New Member

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      that was the one i were reading, but how the heck do HB know how to move from 1 spot to another for example....
       
    4. chinajade

      chinajade Well-Known Member Moderator Buddy Core Dev

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      Consider the fragment:
      Code:
         <QuestOrder>
             <PickUp QuestName="When This Mine's a-Rockin'" QuestId="10079" GiverName="Foreman Biggums" GiverId="16837" />
             <Objective QuestName="When This Mine's a-Rockin'" QuestId="10079" Type="KillMob" MobId="18827" KillCount="12" />
             <TurnIn QuestName="When This Mine's a-Rockin'" QuestId="10079" TurnInName="Foreman Biggums" TurnInId="16837" />
         </QuestOrder>
      
      • The QuestOrder represents the sequence of events we want Honorbuddy to perform.
      • The "GiverName" attribute is just decorative for when Honorbuddy spits out log messages.
      • The "GiverID" tells Honorbuddy the NPC that will yield the quest. Honorbuddy consults an internal database to find the X-Y-Z coordinates of this NPC and traverses to him.
      • When the Quest is done, Honorbuddy looks at the TurnInId to find out which NPC. Again, Honorbuddy consults an internal database to find the X-Y-Z coordinates of this NPC and goes to turn in.
      Traversing the world is Honorbuddy's responsibility, not the profile writers. The Profile Writer just has to tell Honorbuddy where to go, and what to do.

      There are times when a profile writer must specify X-Y-Z coordinates, but Honorbuddy still does any needed traversal. You will need to consult the documentation for each tag to determine all the information you need to feed each step of a QuestOrder. This is just a rite of passage for learning to write profiles.

      cheers,
      CJ
       
    5. leo

      leo New Member

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      what standalone programs you use when your making a questing profile ?
       
    6. chinajade

      chinajade Well-Known Member Moderator Buddy Core Dev

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      I'm a dinosaur, and write them all by hand using Notepad++.

      Many use Apoc's Profile Editor, but I've never spent the time to check it out. But as with all things Apoc, I'm sure its quite good. There may be other editors people prefer to use.

      All the information you need is either in the Wiki, or in the Forums. Please feel free to use the Forum search button. Many non-coders have written these things, and its not that hard. Hundreds of excellent profiles have been written before the Wiki or Profile editors existed. Many people got their start by studying the profiles written by others.

      Its an endeavor, but not that difficult. There is no 'easy out'. Either you want to do it or not. If you do, you need to read and use Forum search a whole lot.

      cheers,
      CJ
       
    7. leo

      leo New Member

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      oh my, im totaly braindead, im trying to figure it out how to make it as fast and easiest possible but this just take too mutch time....
      How come there isnt a recording program like glider had ......

      where the heck you guys get all time to write these profiles, its not one line it like 3k lines
       
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      Lt.Leon New Member

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      Much patience and nothing to do :p

      But im a dinosaur as well, i do everything in just straight Notepad :p
       
    9. Azathoth1

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      Glider used a way point based system, which means you could in turn record where you went (For grinding profiles), and then you set glider to a certain yard radius for mobs, nodes, etc, to deviate from those way points. PPather (The nav system that glider used for automatically generating paths) was also used for grinding/questing, however PPather was a resource hog, it took a long time to generate a path to anywhere, and it still got stuck on random objects such as fences, barrels, etc.

      The way honorbuddy works, is it creates a navmesh for every piece of land in WoW. It takes seconds to generate a walkable path (And usually much less time then that), and it is pretty much the best out their for wow navigation. Honorybuddy does not use a way point system so you cannot just record and go.

      For honorbuddy profiles, you have hotspots, and blackspots, Hotspots are the spots your mobs are at that you want to kill (The general area), or the herbs/mining nodes you want to gather. The bot just needs the hotspots, and it knows you want to go to that area and do your thing, the bot will AUTOMATICALLY generate a path to get there. Blackspots are spots that their may be a navmesh issue, and you might be getting stuck on something, if its consistent you can add a blackspot and honorbuddy will try to stay out of that area (Unless of course it doesn't have a choice).

      If you need me to elaborate any further go ahead and let me know.
       
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    10. khurune

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      Leo, don't be too hard on yourself, we all have our own learning pace, I was excatlly the same as you when I started out making Customclasses. Little time, little research checking out how everyone else does it. And lots of testing, and you'll have your first bit of work that you'll be very proud off.
       
    11. leo

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      Thx, but it seems i have to get rid of my wife to get time and learn to do some profiles :p
      problem for me is that i dont really know how honorbuddy works togheter whit the profile, and its just too mutch info to take in at same time.
      it seems that grinding profile are easier to make but i just hate to grind everywhere and that looks so bootish, thats why i wanna make a questing profile.
       

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