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    Discussion in 'Discussions (no Ban Reports here)' started by seanmoose, May 20, 2016.

    1. seanmoose

      seanmoose New Member

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      [FONT=arial, sans-serif]How is Blizzard able to suspend/Ban accounts without having to provide proof that you violated the terms? A simple because they can is a BS reason and not a legal reason. If you are going to accuse someone of violating terms of your game and punish them by terminating their so called "contract" then some sort of evidence should be provided proving in fact you did so. An email from some random person copying and pasting "Blizzard Entertainment has suspended this World of Warcraft account after identifying the usage of bots or other ***** software." isn't proof you did anything wrong that's just someone stating you did. If that's the case then they can ban anyone for liking the color blue or being Horde and not alliance and then label us a *****er and that's the end of it. No proof or evidence you did anything wrong other then Blizzard itself saying you did so. It should be like it is in the courts when someone is accused of something.. Innocent until proven guilty. I'm not saying they should provide a detailed log on how they came about it but something other than their BS "we have evidence" show me this so called evidence.. show me the time stamps of me being on for 4 days straight or you were in this dungeon for 9 hours straight or me running into a damn tree for 3 hours. I think that would sit better with people then some outlined email they just copy and paste to everyone without knowing wtf is really going on. I accept everything that comes from the risk of using this program but don't like that no proof is given to suspensions/bans. When going after Blizzard I think this is a bigger case then saying they invade our privacy. They obviously know about this program but what if they don't have proof that any of us use it? They scan our systems but how do they know they aren't getting false positives due to other programs we may use on our system? I feel there is a huge loop hole in how they are able to ban/suspend without providing actually proof X person did so.[/FONT]
       
    2. Kuat

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      Legally, they don't have to provide anything. They can close your account for any reason they like. It's in their ToS, and you had agreed to it.



      Also, learn to write like an adult and not like a 6 year old kid. No one's gonna read that wall of text.
       
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    3. ryftobuddy

      ryftobuddy Banned

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      You aren't going to get many responses to this simply because you don't know how to use appropriate sentence structure and noone in the world likes walls of text.

      The short answer is you agreed to allow them to suspend you the second you agreed to their terms. You don't own anything at all related to your account, minus the DVD's the game came on. They are a private organization running their own software on their own servers. They can deny you access to said software and said servers anytime they see fit, just like they could turn the servers off at any time without anyone telling them they can't.
       
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      Sure is a lot of entitlement here whenever a ban wave hits. We did what we did and we've received the punishment.
       
    5. harris

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      This. No matter what you think, no matter what you want to say, no matter how you would like to have things work. This.
       
    6. Knob

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      LMFAO

      A "Wall of Text" is the same way Blizzard gets people to agree on letting them spy on you in the first place... You can bury anything you want in there, people will click and accept anything to make it go away. :cool:
       
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    7. WinterWonder

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      This.
      Werry well said.
       
    8. killajosh

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      I read every ToS, ToU, EULA. I don't agree to something without knowing what I am agreeing to.
       
    9. hackitbaby

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      so you are one of thousand who read it - congrats to that ^^

      I dont care cause i cant do anything about that at all so no need to read it. If i dont agree i cant play - its as easy as that
       
    10. Knob

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      When you get to #9 of the TOS. You can stop reading there, they got it covered... :rolleyes:

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      9. Changes to the Terms of Use or the Game.

      Blizzard reserves the right, at its sole and absolute discretion, to change, modify, add to, supplement or delete, at any time, any of the terms and conditions of this Agreement, any feature of the Game or the Service, hours of availability, content, data, software or equipment needed to access the Game or the Service, effective with or without prior notice
       
    11. justinny

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      As a corporation they're allowed to refuse product to anyone they want.
       

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