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    1. wizardpt

      wizardpt Member

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      With this new change of "legalize" gold selling i guess gold prices will drop alot and im sure they will nerf the places we get most gold from > instances.


      "New Ways to Play
      We’re exploring the possibility of giving players a way to buy tradable game-time tokens for the purpose of exchanging them in-game with other players for gold. Our current thought on this is that it would give players a way to use their surplus gold to cover some of their subscription cost, while giving players who might have less play time an option for acquiring gold from other players through a legit and secure system. A few other online games offer a similar option, and players have suggested that they’d be interested in seeing something along those lines in WoW. We agree it could be a good fit for the game, and we look forward to any feedback you have as we continue to look into this feature."
       
    2. rexutin

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      And what does Blizzard do when you sell gold and get money in PayPal and then the buyer asks PayPal to take the money back?
       
    3. bennyquest

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      selling gold is against the eula so blizzard would do nothing
       
    4. spongebobbot

      spongebobbot New Member

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      RIP GOLD SELLING.

      We all know Blizz was going to do this soon enough. Not selling gold but token like in Eve and Wildstar.

      BOTTING IS OFFICIALY OVER




      RIP IN PEPERONIS MY MAYYYTE



      BLIZZ MAKES THE EULA

      BLIZ CAN CHANGE THE EULA


      PLZ DONT SHARE THIS SECRET TYVM
       
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    5. JustinTense

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      Not sure what you mean, but it will most likely be something like this...
      Buy tokens from the blizz store, post them on AH or trade chat to sell to someone, now this guy will probably be able to use his new tokens on the blizz store for game time and probably other items like mounts.
       
    6. Angelus

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      Yeah this is not good news, now if somebody is in need of some gold, legit players´ll most likely buy the token and sell it for gold. With the majority of the legit players doing this, the price of such tokens will be shit. Because they now tied the virtual money to actual tangible money the actual price of gold AND subscription will both most likely decline in value, leaving both blizzard and gold sellers worse off.
       
    7. Aion

      Aion Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      We have LEGAL gold selling methods since years, and Blizzard is OK with them - buying Unscratched TCG cards of mounts/pets and sell them ingame for gold!

      Nothing new, but its much easier for the end-user now.

      This, as every market will reach its balanced state sooner or later.

      People with the golds vs people with the gametime tokens! But there will ALWAYS be black market!

      Remember D3 and RMAH? Does it stopped the outside RMAH gold trading? No ofc - thats why Blizzard made the gold BOA in desperate move, but it made no sence, so they removed RMAH at all!
       
    8. ryftobuddy

      ryftobuddy Banned

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      This is the same system that Wildstar uses.

      And did anyone else notice that it says they are "exploring the possibility", not that it's happening.

      Once aspect of botting will be done. Botting as a whole will never go away.
       
    9. DualYield

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      LOL, thats the last thing I expected blizz would actually do
       
    10. MrB

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      From what I've read, you don't buy the token for real cash and sell it for gold, you buy it for gold to save real cash. I don't think it's necessarily bad, it could be good. Firstly Blizz isnt' going to want to ruin it's income so it could only be a partial trade. Secondly, unless the cost is cheap in gold for the game time, then it could be good for us sellers as we'll sell the gold cheaper than Blizzard will, for example, if it's 10k for a weeks play, then we can say that 10k is worth 1/4 of $15 (that's what the US cost per month is isn't it?) so we're on $0.37 per k in gold. Besides, I wonder if it may cost even more than that, they have shareholders to keep happy and they certainly won't want to lose too much revenue on this. It could steady the prices for us.

      Perhaps I've got the wrong end of things, but I'd like to know more before saying it's a bad thing.
       
    11. Angelus

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      "We’re exploring the possibility of giving players a way to buy tradable game-time tokens for the purpose of exchanging them in-game with other players for gold"

      Pretty sure he means dead on that player A will buy "tradable game-time tokens" with IRL money "for the purpose of exchanging them in-game with other players for gold" :p
       
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      And what does the gold seller do with the tokens?
       
    13. MrB

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      The idea is to pay for game time with gold isn't it?

      "surplus gold to cover some of their subscription cost"

      It makes no sense to me to buy something for real money to then trade in to get game time, you may as well just buy the game time surely?
       
    14. MrB

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      I have it in my head that you go to a vendor and buy a game time token for xx gold, you then "use" that token in game and it will credit you with some game time. I can't see how it would work any other way. The gold seller doesn't get a token, he sells gold cheaper than Blizzard sells the subscription for so buyers of gold can buy a game time token. If anything it will get the "honest" WoW players looking at options for cheaper gold.
       
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      Gatherit New Member Buddy Store Developer

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      They can and will eventually do it. That does not mean botting is over by a long shot though. Botting will just be primarily for the casual player that can't be arsed into doing the mundane tasks which the game has. There will always be botting as long as WoW is around. There is always demand for something in games everywhere. And if a bot can help provide it when you don't have the time to do it... well... then botting will never die.

      [​IMG]
       
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      Ok so to clear up the confusion that people are having. If this gets implemented this is the way it will work:

      Player A - Pays $X.XX in real money to buy a game time token. This token is then placed on a character within the game ( or retrieved from mail, whatever )
      Player A - Lists the Game Time Token on the AH for gold ***see note 1 below***
      Player B - Buys Game Time Token off the Auction House for gold

      Player B has now effectively sold gold for real life money ( they bought an item that has real life money value for gold ), and Player A has effectively bought gold for real money ( they sold an item that has real life money value for gold )


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      Note 1: Player A could in theory use the token for their own game time. This defeats the purpose and is probably not going to be cost effective as the token will probably cost several dollars more than a months subscription. This price however is theory, however this is how Eve does it. Game time = $14.95/mo where as a PLEX (same thing as the proposed Game Time Token) = $17.95/mo

      Note 2: In Eve, the ISK (gold) value of a PLEX has NEVER gone down. It increases on a regular basis, but the price of a PLEX in real money stays the same, thus effectively lowering the value of the in game currency
       
    17. klepp0906

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      surprise. blizzard has been participating in rmt for ages. And gold prices have already dropped to next to nothing.

      Apparently blizzard is jacking this idea from wildstar except they apparently didnt bother to follow up on how its "working" for wildstar lol..
       
    18. Gatherit

      Gatherit New Member Buddy Store Developer

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      It's like taking one last breath before making the game FTP.
       
    19. Jerf

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      Not everyone bots for the same reasons you do.
       
    20. BubbaDad

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      Welcome ya'll to regulations, rules, capital enterprise and the laws of supply and demand. The smart will survive and the ones who dont have initiative will not thrive.
       

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