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TuanHA Shaman - The Ultimate Experience

Thanks I see it now. Question: How does this work if earthquake is disabled in elemental?

Earthquake is a dps loss for me on single target because bosses move far to much and it doesnt know WHEN to cast it (For it will cast it on butcher in highmaul right before he does his charge, thus being a complete dps loss)

Also I tested it on a target dummy using identifical circumstances with EQ on and off on single target, not using EQ on single target did higher DPS (By about 1500-2k)


Will it cast Earthquake if its disabled but there is more than one mob?
 
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TuanHa, i'm loving the latest CR additions (like mana pot options, etc)

Was wondering if you can also add this to the CR: make a name field for interrupts instead of all/focus/target

Sometimes when im a healer i don't have time to target/focus, and by just adding a MOB name into the interrupt field would really help.

This is for PvE mostly.

Please consider adding this option ^
 
Hi Tuanha

I have the pro version. My Shaman is elemental.

I think the CombatRotation is wrong.. Use Chain Lightning - Spell - World of Warcraft and Earthquake - Spell - World of Warcraft at SINGLE TARGET.

The best rotation (Single) is:
[PvE Guide] Elemental Shaman - Updated for 6.0.3

Flame Shock Up
Unleash Fury Talent Only Cast Unleash Flame
Cast Lava Burst if off cooldown
Elemental Blast Talent Only Cast Elemental Blast
If you have 15+ Stacks of Lightning Shield, Cast Earth Shock
If Flame Shock has less than 9 seconds left, Cast Flame Shock
If you have no Fire Totem, cast Searing Totem
Lightning Bolt

Cooldowns

Use Ascendance and Fire Elemental Totem (as well as Elemental Mastery and Storm Elemental if you have those talents) as often as possible. Try and time them with trinket procs (if applicable) and Bloodlust.

AoE Rotation
[PvE Guide] Elemental Shaman - Updated for 6.0.3

Elemental Shaman have two types of Area of Effect damage rotations. One is for 4+ targets, and the other is a Cleave Rotation, which is an extension of the single Target rotation, but adapted for 2-3 targets.

Cleave

The Cleave Rotation is the same as the Single Target one, but with three changes.

1 - Earthquake

You should cast Earthquake on Cooldown. However, you should only cast it after casting a single Chain Lightning. Cast Chain Lightning once (making sure it hits as many targets as possible), then cast Earthquake. From there, continue with the single target rotation. This is higher priority than even casting Flame Shock.

2 - Chain Lightning

Apart from the initial cast of Chain Lightning to buff Earthquake, you should only cast Chain Lightning as filler instead of Lightning Bolt.

Note: If you know the fight will never have more than 3 Targets, remove Glyph of Chain Lightning. If the fight will have more then you should use it. Use your judgement when the time of 4 or 5 Targets is very small but the time of 3 or less is high to work out if it is a DPS increase to use Glyph of Chain Lightning or not. If in doubt, use it, the DPS loss of using it is not massive, whilst the potential gains of using it are.

AoE

For AoE, you should open with Chain Lightning to buff Earthquake, then cast Earthquake, and spam Chain Lightning until you can cast Earthquake again. Never cast Earthquake without first casting Chain Lightning. You should now ignore all of the single target rotation, except for Earth Shock. Earth Shock you should still cast, but now only when you have 18+ Stacks instead of 15+. Use Earth shock either on the highest heath target (to make the number of targets alive be larger for longer = more numbers!) or on the highest priority target if you need too kill a certain target very quickly to save the tank.


Please revise, fix and optimize it :( love your work.


Regards


when going to fix this?
 
Thanks I see it now. Question: How does this work if earthquake is disabled in elemental?

Earthquake is a dps loss for me on single target because bosses move far to much and it doesnt know WHEN to cast it (For it will cast it on butcher in highmaul right before he does his charge, thus being a complete dps loss)

Also I tested it on a target dummy using identifical circumstances with EQ on and off on single target, not using EQ on single target did higher DPS (By about 1500-2k)


Will it cast Earthquake if its disabled but there is more than one mob?


when going to fix this? ;(
 
Hi Tuanha!
I have used your products for a long time now so i am familiar with the ui. But for some reason i can not get my ENHANCE to use chain lightning at all no matter what do. I have changed the settings from 1 MWS to 5 and also dubble checked it in the configs. Can you confirm that the routine is using chain lightning on more than 2 targets? (testing in both heroic BRF and target dummies in Stormshield)
 
Hmm, I've test and see Ele cast Chain Lighting for buff then Earth Quake as intended. How come problem not fixed for you? I need a log :D

For moving boss, sorry there's no code can "Guess" boss movement, charge etc... so I suggest you guy use hotkey for that spell

Hi Tuanha!
I have used your products for a long time now so i am familiar with the ui. But for some reason i can not get my ENHANCE to use chain lightning at all no matter what do. I have changed the settings from 1 MWS to 5 and also dubble checked it in the configs. Can you confirm that the routine is using chain lightning on more than 2 targets? (testing in both heroic BRF and target dummies in Stormshield)
I've made adjustment to Enhancement Chain Lighting on new update, hope it cast more now :D

 
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Hmm, I've test and see Ele cast Chain Lighting for buff then Earth Quake as intended. How come problem not fixed for you? I need a log :D

For moving boss, sorry there's no code can "Guess" boss movement, charge etc... so I suggest you guy use hotkey for that spell

I've made adjustment to Enhancement Chain Lighting on new update, hope it cast more now :D


It does cast sometimes now, but it should be number 2 on dmg done, not number 7 :). I still waits for like 10-20 sec before it tries to cast chain lightning. Should be prio 2 after Fire nova, it could increase dps on 3+ targets with 10-15% easily :)

After 5 min on 4 dummies Chain lightning is at 2.4% dmg. According to Simulationcraft it should average around 9-12%.
 
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Hmm, I've test and see Ele cast Chain Lighting for buff then Earth Quake as intended. How come problem not fixed for you? I need a log :D

For moving boss, sorry there's no code can "Guess" boss movement, charge etc... so I suggest you guy use hotkey for that spell

I've made adjustment to Enhancement Chain Lighting on new update, hope it cast more now :D


/FACEPALM


I paid for an elemental rotation and not work well...
Your website say:

"Elemental:
There is a vast option to use your Elemental Shaman to get the most dps in raid, a true killer in PvP while healing you/your team mate."


This is not true


Fret for your rotation. Much people that complain about the elemental shaman dps in your thread..

PLEASE, it's your job maintain optimal rotations, not my job. If I took the pains to send you the correct rotation for the elemental shaman, you check and fix the problem.
[PvE Guide] Elemental Shaman - Updated for 6.0.3

Buying the pro versión has not helped me at all :confused:

Play with your shaman in some dungeon or raid, not know how to send logs.. It should not be my concern... and not visit the forum every day to see if you've done your job :(

If you're not going to fix it, tell me. You give me back the money I paid, and one less worry.. :S

I hope you understand me as a customer
 
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Hi TuanHA. I couldn't find answer for my problem, that's why i'm here. How to make bot use feral spirit, fire elem totem and another ability with long cooldown on cd? I switched on setting, but it doesn't work. I need this ability during farming normal mobs in grind mode.
Btw, I'm using your paid version.
 
Logs + Simulationtheory craft + recount...

Log Vs unitarget dummy attached

Simulationtheroy craft with my shaman (SimulationCraft tool)
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Simulate perfect rotation unitarget
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Simulate perfect rotation % skill damage unitarget
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My recount % skill damage Vs unitarget dummy
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Conclusion: (Perfect rotation Vs your rotation)

#1 Skill dps: Lava Burst NICE!
#2 Skill dps: Lighting Bolt: BAD! 20% simulate perfect rotation Vs 7,3% your combat rotation (My recount)
#3 Skill dps: Molten Earth: NICE! 12,8% Simulate perfect rotation Vs 13% your combat rotation (my recount)
4# Skill dps: Earth shock: BAD! 10,7% simulate perfect rotation Vs 2% your combat rotation (My recount)
5# Skill dps: Fulmination: Improvable! 7,8% simulate perfect rotation Vs 5,2% your combat rotation (My recount)
6# Skill dps: Flame shock: NICE! 6,6% simulate perfect rotation Vs 6,6% your combat rotation (My recount)

Problems at your single combat rotation: (look my recount score)

#1 Skill: Lava Burst
#2 Skill: Molten Earth
#3 Skill: Earthquake <-- WTF? AoE Skill at Single Target
#4 Skill: Lighting Bolt
#5 Skill: Flame shock
#6 Skill: Fulmination
#7 Skill: Chain Lighting <-- WTF? Another AoE Skill at Single Target
#8 Skill: Earth shock


Please fix the priority skill, combat rotation and another issues for improve dps...
 

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Thank zareon90,

Look like the rotation need a major overhaul, I'll try step by step fixing it.
 
Hey Tuanha. I used you paid version as resto shammy since SoO, and it worked perfectly for me.
Did great healing, and that healing adjusting meter was perfect to make sure the routine used the perfect amount of mana throughout the fight.
Now tho it`s a complete other story.. I have tried from +4 to -14 without noticing much difference, oom by the time boss is around 50%. One fight i did not even have enough mana to bloodlust, and thats just not good.
Not saying its the routine, cause i`m absolutely open for the idea that its my settings that wrecks me. What shall i do? Can someone help me out with settings so i get it right, or if its the routine can you fix it?
Thank you for the time :)
 
@Stormwiddow, can you post your settings and etc. some one may be able to suggest some changes to help optimize your output and mana control.
 
Hey since the update to 60 , i seem to have lost alot of dps on boss fights just wondering if you can look into this please
 
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