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    Discussion in 'Archives' started by raphus, Dec 18, 2015.

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    1. Benninger

      Benninger Member

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      Well, it is called "honor"buddy - I supposed it was used to :)
       
    2. Sparkybots

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      That's why its a Theory and not a fact. Can u show me a better Theory that can explain why some get targeted and banned while others dont? And I dont mean Ban Waves. I have ran test using honorbuddy and reviewing the ban section. Bottom line we all know the risk with Botting and its been said over a million times dont bot on an account u dont want to lose.
       
    3. nihon

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      Try to read the first post again.
       
    4. Maffyx

      Maffyx Active Member Buddy Store Developer

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      The tripwire didn't catch the event because it was set to look for a different thing (a potentially outdated thing) and wasn't reset to look for the right thing. So they do know what they need to change to prevent another hit.
       
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      humm did they ever reached the moon well am in limbo still :p
       
    6. Sparkybots

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      The Risk of Botting has got higher since blizzard made PVP an E-Sport. BGBuddy is be getting alot of people banned for years now due to the way it works. Sit back and watch ur toon next time u BGBuddy and tell me u cant tell right from start its a bot. Its draws people's attention and when they lose they want someone to blame.
       
    7. Sparkybots

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      Haven't u seen Transformers?
       
    8. Wullie

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      Ban arena, and battlegrounds. They know this will help but wimped out last time and reverted the decision.
       
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      I accept your sincere apologies. I trust in the work of all the HB team.
       
    10. plyb0y007

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      Thanks Tony and the rest of you guys. I've had honorbuddy for almost 6 years now. In that time I've only had 2 bans and 1 6 months suspension (which occurred the other day). I'm not one of those people that bots on more than 1 account at a time, but I have been dumb enough to AFK BG's and stuff in the past. There's no denying that blizz doesn't have a way to detect honorbuddy, but I fully believe the Tripwire system has saved my butt a few times. As with Warden, we don't know the specifics of what Tripwire is capable of. You KNOW that if you attach a BOT or inject any kind of LUA code that's against the ToS that you are vulnerable to a suspension/ban IMMEDIATELY. You are out of your damn mind if you come here complaining about Honorbuddy. 32/64 bit, click-to-move, HB properties, "i've been a blah blah blah for 40 years"....no one gives a shit. You don't know anything about what they are doing to protect botters as best as they can. And as far as banning arena's and BG's goes, it won't make a difference. If you've actually played you can tell when someone is botting. Not even professionals are so good that they can do an opening sequence or burst rotation perfectly every time, which every CR strives to do. So sit back, relax, drink some adult hot chocolate, and wait for the next release. We all know you're going to download the newest release as soon as it's available. Thanks again Buddy team and Merry Christmas/hanukkah/Kwanzaa or whatever holiday it is you'll be celebrating

      Edit: Tomorrow is officially my 5 year (HB) anniversary.
       
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    11. justfowowlol

      justfowowlol Banned

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      Once it is paid, no one if forced to use it right.. What a blah blah blah make out what blah means...

      Just my 2 cent ;)
       
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    12. Hastur

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      Thanks for the update Raphus. Looks forward to botting again - glad that the WoW accounts are on sale still. ;-)
       
    13. justfowowlol

      justfowowlol Banned

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      Nope tony, this is well said

       
    14. kodge

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      i wouldt mind if the crs did put me on top dps but they most certainly do not ( user of millz warlock routine and tunha ret paladin routine both are far from perfect )
       
    15. plyb0y007

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      Think you missed the part about "strives to be". Either way, you can still tell, especially when it tries to use an ability/item multiple times and you get stutter animation. I've also been top DPS many many many times before even when I wasn't as well geared as others and using a class that's generally "weaker" than others. DPS is dependent upon more than just rotation. Placement, timing, and cooldowns are all integral to having the best dps.
       
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      nothing to do with the fact routines are never updated ! :)
       
    17. plyb0y007

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      Well I won't argue against that. I honestly think that paid routines in the store have stunted progress on updates. The only one I can think of that has updates on a very regular basis is one I'm pretty sure I can't mention here on the forums (it's a rogue CR).
       
    18. kodge

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      yep paid routines should all be updated regular but sad fact they are not :)

      haha no wonder rogues are top deeps in mythics :DD
       
    19. whatajokelol

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      I find this quite funny because anyone who has read Lore's "wow forum / community manager" reply to an official wow forum post would know that he said that the way they banned everyone was because blizzard and a third party hired was used to monitor players in game behaviors such as movement and cast times. No where did they say it was because of software detection. If you ever seen the wow documentary blizzard put out last year they showed a room where they have employees watching you play on your accounts from a tv screen and any wrong actions they see while watching you play also goes toward account action. If players are in game click to moving and getting stuck on things and still trying to move its pretty easy while blizzard is monitoring character behavior to ban someone. I'm sure they are monitoring the interrupt times too in arena keep log of these actions.

      Let me go into further details about the character movement as to what Lore said. Here is what i have to say about it. I have two wow accounts. Both used with honorbuddy. Only CR usage on both. One account used with CR and mouse manual movement no kick bot. Didn't get banned. Other account used with cr + kick bot and gets banned. Both accounts played daily 13 hours average. My conclusion with the whole ordeal is that the account that didnt use kick bot and had the cr used without kick bot makes it really just seem like a normal player no one would ever tell. But the one used with kick bot which got the ban would fall under player behavior. My theory is blizzard has probably implemented a monitor system for pvp and more that detects a players cast time and how fast it was kicked. So if in arena say a player is casting flash heal and in 0.01 seconds you kick it. Blizzard probably logs this and then takes the actions against it. Just my theroy of this situation. I don't believe honorbuddy was detected i believe what lore said it was all player behavior monitoring.

      Lastly lore also stated in forums that people need to stop talking about bots in games, any code word for bots or anything of the nature period. He said its helping find and ban botters easier when you say hey i got my beep boop on or say ya i got hb on. Blizzard tracks keywords regarding this program and then after they catch you talking about it in game they monitor your gameplay and ban you as soon as they catch ur character doing stupid shit like running into walls in a bg for 5 min straight or insane kick after kick
       
    20. CoreFun

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      I gues bot detection took place between 12/12/2015 and 12/14/2015.
      All my accounts that created 12/14/2015 (and later) and immediately starts boting - are alive. Accounts suspended for 72h till 12/15/2015 - also alive.
       
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