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  • I have just lost ALL of my accounts, even the non-botted ones

    Discussion in 'Ban Section - Ban Reports' started by fpsware, Oct 19, 2013.

    1. tifreak

      tifreak New Member

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      I think it was IP Ban, Fps comes from a land with static ip?s. Thats what i recognized few times, blizzard ban by IP?s atm. Cant understand this method why they do this hard game with us.
       
    2. loyoladude

      loyoladude New Member

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      Highly doubt it. Think lan centres, college campus', internet cafes, etc.
       
    3. tifreak

      tifreak New Member

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      Did u think on IP Ban (incl. MAC or HWID) ; Blizz scan IP and check all running WOW Accounts manual! If all WOW Accounts running in the same machine or a large number of Accounts, they Ban all because no one use 8 Accounts on 1 machine excl. Multiboxxer. And everyone can see that Botters are no Multiboxxers.

      Trust me, i know what i say ;)
       
    4. thebrodieman

      thebrodieman Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      I don't multibox, mostly because I'm too much of a perfectionist on the task at hand when I program. Testing would be another thing, but that's what I have the community for.
       
    5. loyoladude

      loyoladude New Member

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      Perhaps....


      But then you'd probably also know how easily mac and hdd serials can be faked by tools searching for that information and how unreliable it would be as a means for catching bots. I highly doubt they'd invest too much time with this, but it's cool.


      Its fine we disagree over something we're both just second guessing.

      does make me think though why I lost 4 bot accounts but my 5th account that I was playing by hand (with lazy raider) was fine... And they were all in the same battle.net... :-/
       
    6. bloodmarks

      bloodmarks New Member

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      everyone Please let us know if you used same IP/MAC on all accounts, it might not be important but i would like to know anyway
       
    7. thebrodieman

      thebrodieman Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Mine were same IP, but not always same MAC. Multiple computers, depends on where I am in my house.
       
    8. Frayman

      Frayman Member Legendary

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      Part of me really believes this was directed at dev's from HB such as FPSware and Brodieman, definately looks like a big cleanup by Blizz for sure. I bet they really sit back and consider each time they ban. Because I know me personally would be DONE with wow if it wasnt for the botting aspect. They can afford to lose our community as i think alot of ppl bot.
       
    9. MMike

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      same thing happened to me last month lost 13 accounts including my main account. opened ticket only got my main account back that i never bot on. All account were clean never suspended or banned before, some with my own name and some with random names. i don't really farm ores /herbs that much usually just do raids with lazyraider. been botting since glider i got alot of accounts banned usually just 2-3 accounts at a time, this is the first time that they ban all my account at once all with same email and same time "Exploitative Activity: Abuse of the Economy". guess time to take a break.
       
    10. LaoArchAngel

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      Unfortunately, changing MAC addresses depending on the location in the house wouldn't work. If you have 3 computers and 5 accounts, and use each of those 5 accounts going back and forth between those 3 computers, they'll put 2 and 2 together. It wouldn't even be difficult.

      Instead, I would recommend the following scenario: 2 email addresses; 2 paypal accounts (or pay with pre-paid cards); 2 different computers (or 1 VPC with a spoofed MAC address); 1 ***** ***.

      Associate an account with a computer (or MAC address) and a MAC address with an IP (the ***** *** is your 2nd IP). Only play an account in its associated MAC address and IP. Only access battle.net account website from the associated MAC address. If you have an authenticator, make sure they sync times from different IP addresses, especially if you use a PC-based authenticator.

      I think the above is the only way to keep accounts isolated (if you really care to do so). However, I doubt most people would go through the trouble. If you don't follow ALL of the steps above, it would be ridiculously easy for Blizz to determine which accounts belong to which user.

      EDIT: Seriously? You draw moral boundaries on ***** and ***? They're not even illegal. Hell, I have to use one to remote into work from home.
       
    11. h4xxor

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      hi
      i am sorry for your lost. as i think its a hit agains hb devolper. idk how they found out its you but i have some questions.

      if you take donations does your pp email is the same as your bnet-loggin?
      if not: is your pp name the same as your bnet accountname?
      if you writte an email form your pp account do you see your real name (bnetacc name)?
      did you ever uploaded logs? if yes can you see in your HB/wow path your real name? i mean like C:\Users\<Eric cartman>\Desktop\HB
      do you sell some of your products for HB on your own site? do you have an own company(for wow/hb products)? if so is it on the same (rl) name as your wow account.
      how many ppl did see the vid? and could there be an reup on an other site?
      did you ever uploaded screens form your wow/screenshots folder?
      maybe you just was unlucky. so they just banned you for boting. i do not think think they ban every day not more then 5 ppl with (exactly) 11 accounts. after asking they changed to 72h. after they seen someone posted here in forum he lost 11 accs+ is from NZ they could be sure it was you so they changed 72h to perm again

      so if they were really out for ya there are (what i am sure about) this could be the points they find you

      i hope it helps

      greetings
       
    12. Insanityy

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      If i was a gm id ban all the other gm's and /poo on their face xD
       
    13. Sighthound

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      Very sad news, fpsware. I read all the 4 pages hoping that you could find a solution, but sadly didn't find. You're a hero around here, and I hope you manage to get at least your non-botted accounts somehow, but if you don't, I am sure the community will help to raise funds for you to acquire new accounts with your demands.

      Best of luck for you!
       
    14. rowman598

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      People with multiple banned accounts, were they linked on a battle account? or did they find them all with your credit card payment or account id, so were you as a person in effect banned, so that all accounts with your name on them was banned. or did they use your ip on your computer? could it be they got account information on HB forums and then searched blizzard acocunts for your personal name. Seems that this was more administration related info banning than actual in game observation.

      in order to pay HB people have to use their real name, if blizzard got this info..
       
    15. bloodmarks

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      not true, you can pay with BitCoin
       
    16. bloodmarks

      bloodmarks New Member

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      also some companies sell HB keys for gold
       
    17. loyoladude

      loyoladude New Member

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      Well, as someone who's now had active/nonactive/us/eu accounts banned in a single swoop let me tell you what i know;

      3 battle.nets;
      a) with US/EU/Active/NONactive accts.
      b) with US/Active accts
      c) with US Active accts

      Different email address hosts
      Same Surname
      B used Credit card. C used game time cards. A used both credit and gametime.
      All botted through same IP (along with my wife and kids accounts seperatly - neither of which are banned btw).

      account A = 100% BANNED
      account B = 100% BANNED
      account C = 100% fine

      So...Make what you will of that.
       
    18. Giwin

      Giwin Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      were you using a credit card?
       
    19. thebrodieman

      thebrodieman Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      It's because we are developers. Several major developers for HB were all hit with a full account ban simultaneously that morning.
       
    20. mkay1337

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      i'm feeling really sorry for you.
      i hope you did not use real billing information or did anything else on any accounts that can compromise your personal security.

      as many developers were targeted, let's hope you'll not get sued by blizz
       

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