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  • [OFFICIAL][Patch 5.0.4] Honorbuddy will be offline for a week (or more)

    Discussion in 'Archives' started by Hawker, Aug 28, 2012.

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    1. plaray51

      plaray51 New Member

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      I don't understand how this is even an argument. The game files and spellids and new zones are already known and out there. The only thing that need fixed is combat routines right now as the new zones are not even implemented in game yet why does this take a week for a paid product to do when a free one did it instantly? Think about it for more than 20 seconds.

      And datamining is discovering any part of the data of something. Its a very general term. It doesn't have only to do with virtual items. That's retarded. Google harder next time.
       
    2. Liferose

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      So how does the bot communicate with wow? By just knowing the zones and stuff? You need to do your research. It's not that simple.

      And my point on the datamining is that it's not an appropriate term. If they had all of the files for everyone to see, with all of the functions and such just as they were on the ptr, then sure, but no.
       
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    3. Cocaine

      Cocaine Banned

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      I may be misunderstanding you, but I don't think there is anything free that's better than HB. All it does it rotations and seems like a simple way to get detected by warden.
       
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    4. plaray51

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      They do have it that way otherwise how did pqr work the minute servers were up?

      All of everyone's arguments would be valid if there wasn't a different program that proves my point. Theres no research to be done other than the fact a different free bot that does combat worked the second servers were up.

      Maybe hb should recode and take a lesson from pqr if the arument is that it communicates in a different way
       
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      Exactly.... Everyone needs to chill out. There is stuff to do to verify that everything is all right. Even if the bot is down for two weeks god forbid, I still wouldn't be ranting and crying like half of you are. Because, I know that bossland and the rest of the staff, hell even some that aren't staff put a lot of work and effort into this. And if it was down for two weeks, it would be for a good reason, or because someone really needs a vacation. Just my two cents.
       
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      Your re-coding thing is irrelevant because the bots are entirely different in functionality, and size. I've only absorbed so much from being here so long, and you guys seem to be putting heavy influence on the idea that the bot is down JUST BECAUSE the rotations aren't setup yet. Honorbuddy has gone through plenty of mini-patches, and regular patches with nothing to do with combat rotations and had to be fixed. Unless you clearly know how Honorbuddy works, you can't raise an argument of paying for a bot and it not being available, that's Blizzards fault.

      Stop comparing it to other bots, this is Honorbuddy.
       
    7. plaray51

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      Pqr works much better than hb for auto rotation. Much easier to edit on the spot. And I'm not the only one saying this. As far as I'm concerned the combat routines were the only thing that needed fixing since the new zones and areas aren't live yet. Unless you're playing a different 5.0.4 than I am.
       
    8. Liferose

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      Then go to that bot. Honorbuddy is community driven, if you want something better than the standard make it yourself.

      Did you even read the first sentence of this thread? "There are a lot of changes to how the core of WoW works AS WELL AS.. (combat routine nonsense)" That implies no, that's not all that needs to be fixed.
       
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      Yes yes, we agree you're a PQR fanboy. Now piss off.
       
    10. plaray51

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      So what functionality changes need updated for 5.0.4 other than combat Mr master coder?
       
    11. ShortRound

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      Well, let's see, which other botbases are available besides straight stand-and-pewpew? Oh look, there's a lengthy list. I wonder if your much-vaunted PQR can manage to run dungeons on its own.
       
    12. Liferose

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      The reason you can talk with people, or open your achievement windows, or even move your mouse around when the bot is doing whatever it is you're having it do, is because the bot has to communicate with WoW using stuff you don't see. Honorbuddy has to match up with the scripts and functions* of the WoW client in order to make the proper negotiations to simulate player actions. Blizzard just loves to change these around, they're always different in every non-hotfix patch, ptr, beta, and expansion. Meaning if they even had CC's lined up, the bot wouldn't work for crap since the wow client was changed.

      * I am no developer, replace functions and scripts with all of that fancy communcation-ey nonsense it does with pixies and magic. But the idea is that Blizzard swapped pixies--err.. updated stuff.
       
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      Bah ... i was supposed to go 8/8 hm today , but without combat bot its impossible to me =)
       
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      plaray51 needs a good smack on the bum! his just angry that HB is not working atm, He dont know anything all his info is from ownedcore = load of crap....Just wondering plaray

      UMADBRO?

      You sound mad
       
    15. plaray51

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      Actually the information that I am using is from my own personal experiences with both bots. I don't care if every single person flames me on here, it doesn't make me mad.
       
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      plaray51 not a single person here asked you to use this software...not a single person asked you to write (probably the most stupid thing ever wrote by mankind) and you are complaining about the softwares downtime..take your head out of your *** you are subscribed to WoW do you bitch just as much when servers are down? because you "pay to play" get real for gods sake...grab a gun
       
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      I think you should give lordimac and plaray51 the beta version and see if they get banned. As for me, I'm waiting until the devs say it's safe.
       
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    18. plaray51

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      So who asked you to write anything?

      Listen - I'm just stating the facts. HB has a combat routine, pqr has a combat routine. Pqr works day 1. HB does not. PQR is free Hb is not.

      The new zones were not implemented in 5.0.4. The only thing that really changed was the spells glyphs and talents. PQR needed to update for all these things, HB need to update for all these things too. PQR the free program did it on day 1.

      Facts are facts. Now stop being childish. I've done enough research to support the facts I just said. I've used and made profiles for both programs. Odd to me how the free one did it faster.


      Your arguments are things such as I need a smack on the bum, umadbro, I need to go see the sunlight, and I should grab a gun. And that the facts I've stated are the dumbest of all mankind? Do you even think about what you say before you say it?
       
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    19. Thadderack

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      You are right! They must have taken the bot down for no apparent reason. Maybe they just want us to think that they are making it safe for us to use.

      Every major patch they change warden. They also completely changed the talent system around as well as spells so I am sure that they are taking the necessary time to make sure that they release a quality product rather than just fixing some simple things and throwing it out there. Rotations are easy and I could do that with a long macro on my keyboard but I would much rather have HB and don't mind waiting for this since it was only about $30 for 3,600 days of use...
       
    20. razer

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      So if PQR is all done and everything, why arnt you using it and complaining about HB not being done yet. Just use PQR untill HB is done gezz...Unless PQR is not what you say it is. :) So stop crying and use pqr untill hb is done :) over and out!
       
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